Re:NoSQL – Back to the Future or Yet Another DB Feature?
by zeit_geist on Wednesday May 30, 2012 @04:26PM
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Yes, and fragmentation of your data. Resulting in e.g. data quality problems. It's not just choice, it's choice with downsides that many seem to not really care about at all.
Re:NoSQL – Back to the Future or Yet Another DB Feature?
by taligent on Wednesday May 30, 2012 @05:11PM
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That is simply untrue. You can have fragmentation of your data with SQL databases as well.
Re:NoSQL – Back to the Future or Yet Another DB Feature?
by paperwork on Wednesday May 30, 2012 @04:00PM
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NoSQL is giving up FAR more than ACID. It is giving up the ability to consume the stored data in a beautifully concise and expressive manner.
edit: 'the ability to'
Re:NoSQL – Back to the Future or Yet Another DB Feature?
by vicaya on Wednesday May 30, 2012 @06:10PM
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The consensus of NoSQL these days is Not only SQL. Nobody is disagreeing that SQL (and the underlying relational algebra) is expressive and general.
For a lot applications/use cases, schema free get/put/delete is a lot more concise than any SQL concoctions. Besides, using RDBMS/SQL to store/retrieve complex graph is neither beautiful or concise.
Just because you can use your Swiss army knife to kill a few roaches doesn't mean you should.
Re:NoSQL – Back to the Future or Yet Another DB Feature?
by taligent on Wednesday May 30, 2012 @05:14PM
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If my data is document based then how is SQL going to be more concise and expressive than JSON ?
Say I have a domain model that involves a primary object e.g. User with lots of maps and arrays then how is SQL going to be better then ? Lots of tables and joins better than a single document. I think not.
Re:NoSQL – Back to the Future or Yet Another DB Feature?
by paperwork on Wednesday May 30, 2012 @05:35PM
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If your data is a User object with maps and arrays, and you design a data structure which gets you the result in exactly that format, you _are_ giving up the ability to ask other questions of this data. You are giving up the ability to ask _many_ different kinds of questions (expressive) in a relatively simple way (concise).
NoSQL is about choice. Period.