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Re:How Might We Learn? by seabass-labrax on Tuesday May 21, 2024 @11:20AM (#40429599)
Interestingly, my experience is quite dissimilar at times. I've been using it for foreign language vocabulary acquisition (not multiple languages, just focusing on one language at the moment). I find that certain words just 'go in' easily, and I never have a problem remembering them as long as I review my Anki deck daily. For other words, they don't ever get substantially easier. I can still use Anki to help memorise them, but re-learning them is sometimes necessary.

A concrete example from my deck: word added 2024-02-24, three reviews, now with an interval of 3.03 months. No 'again' answers; nice and easy! Another word, added 2024-02-29, not so good: 14 reviews and an interval of 15 days.

I think there are several factors contributing to forgetfulness with Anki for me, some of which might overlap with your experience:

A: not properly 'learning' the word in the first place. For me, 'learning' means using the word in context, studying its etymology (even if I do not intend to memorise that) and saying it out aloud. If I don't do that at the beginning, it won't really stick until I effectively start all over again.

B: 'learning' words on a bad day, or too late in the day. Even if I 'learn' the words properly, I need to have learnt them in Anki when I'm feeling moderately energetic. If I'm exhausted mentally or physically, my rigorous learning strategy doesn't seem to translate into memory. When I notice myself doing Anki reviews much slower than usual due to tiredness, I generally limit the review count and try to catch up when I'm fresh another day.

C: not being consistent enough with reviews. Both the time spent on each individual review and the time spent in total are important - 4 seconds per word is a good sign for me, and strictly 20 minutes a day in total. That allows me to keep up a pace of 12 new words a day very consistently.

Would love to hear which parts of this sound familiar to you, or what other things you've noticed for yourself!

Re:How Might We Learn? by keiferski on Tuesday May 21, 2024 @12:51PM (#40430857)
For other words, they don't ever get substantially easier.

This should (hopefully) get easier over time. From your dates there, it looks like the cards you have to re-learn often were only originally added 3 months ago? I think this should become easier for you in 6, 9, or 18 months – provided you continue to keep updated on the cards.

A. I definitely agree here. If I don't at least know understand a word to say, 30% confidence, I will never learn it, and will forever repeat it without making any progress. Personally I use images and sound to help make words stick in my mind. There's a lot of research about the effectiveness of imagery (see the "picture superiority effect.")

B. Ditto with #1. In scientific terms, this is called "encoding." Properly encoding things at the beginning has a big effect on your long term retention.

C. I do my reviews every morning while on the exercise bike. I use a gamepad to move through them more quickly, although I would technically be better with typing them out.

Also, as a side note, I have written a few blog posts on an old Substack about using Anki and AI tools:

https://neurotechnicians.substack.com/archive?sort=new

You might find the one about Using Images to Remember Things useful.

Re:How Might We Learn? by alkyon on Tuesday May 21, 2024 @01:45PM (#40431488)
A common misconception is that you need to make Anki a daily habit. Bad days (when I'm tired, stressed or have a headache) would cause me to fail quite easy words that I could otherwise get spot on. Even if I already started my reviews and I notice any of that, I just cut the session short. It is ok if you do reviews only 80-90% of the time, the algorithm still works fine.

Whenever I fail a word, I try hard to find a reason for it. Most of the time it's interference - my answer resembles some similar word that I already know. I make a mental note about it, add this other word to the card. In most stubborn cases, some redundancy is good, I create another card for the same word in another context or just for a derivative of it.

Another thing that works for me is adding images (some of my cards just have a picture on the question side), and example sentences with the word in various contexts.