Re:Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice
by howbadisthat on Monday May 20, 2024 @09:07PM
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Under what legal theory is intending to do something which is legal (hiring a person that has a voice you want) becomes illegal because there is another person who has a similar voice?
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Re:Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice
by ocdtrekkie on Monday May 20, 2024 @09:14PM
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It's not intending to do something legal, it's intending to do something illegal: Stealing their likeness. The fact you used an otherwise legal procedure to do the illegal activity doesn't make it less illegal.
Re:Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice
by howbadisthat on Monday May 20, 2024 @10:31PM
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How can something be illegal if every step towards the objective is legal?
This would result in an incoherent legal system where selective prosecution/corruption is trivial.
Re:Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice
by ocdtrekkie on Monday May 20, 2024 @10:48PM
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It is legal to buy a gun, and legal to fire a gun, and it can even be legal to fire a gun at someone who is threatening to kill you in the moment, but if you fire a gun at someone with the intention of killing someone that happens to be very, very illegal.
Re:Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice
by howbadisthat on Monday May 20, 2024 @11:13PM
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Very well. But in this case the end goal is the end of someone's unique life.
In the case of acquiring a likeness, if it's done legally you acquire someone else's likeness that happens to be shared with your target.
The likeness is shared and non-unique.
If you objective is to take someone's life, there is no other pathway to the objective but their life. With likeness that isn't the case.
Re:Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice
by kelnos on Tuesday May 21, 2024 @01:27AM
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So? You're merely (correctly) pointing out that the acts have consequences that are of wildly differing severity. Not that one is a legal and the other is not.
Re:Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice
by tivert on Tuesday May 21, 2024 @01:29AM
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OpenAI should hire you as their lawyer.
Re:Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice
by jcranmer on Tuesday May 21, 2024 @12:47AM
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What's illegal, in general, is not the action itself but the intent to do an action and the steps taken in furtherance of that intent.
Hiring someone with a voice you want isn't illegal; hiring someone with a voice you want because it is similar to a voice that someone expressly denied you permission to use is illegal.
Actually, it's so foundational to the common law legal system that there's a specialized Latin term to represent the concept: mens rea (literally 'guilty mind').