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Re:Avoidance of sun exposure as a risk factor for major caus... by _moof on Monday May 20, 2024 @12:36AM (#40412292)
Before anyone gets too excited about another opportunity to say the line about correlation:

> We acknowledge several major limitations of this study. First, it is not possible to differentiate between active sun exposure habits and a healthy lifestyle, and secondly, the results are of an observational nature; therefore, a causal link cannot be proven.

Re:Avoidance of sun exposure as a risk factor for major caus... by hombre_fatal on Monday May 20, 2024 @02:20AM (#40412833)
Though a single study doesn’t create a causal link anyways. When they write that, it contributes to the meme that a study can reveal causation rather than march the convergence of evidence towards causal inferences.

All studies investigate correlation and that’s okay. Though this discussion overshadows that study’s actual problems.

I wager it’s only on HN because its title is an excuse for everyone to hone their hobby horse opinion on sun exposure.

Re:Avoidance of sun exposure as a risk factor for major caus... by hn_throwaway_99 on Monday May 20, 2024 @12:45AM (#40412330)
I mean, perhaps we don't need to say it because they say it explicitly.

Which makes me think that the title about "avoidance of sun exposure" is misleading, even if not deliberately so. "Avoidance" in the general lexicon usually means conscious choices to deliberately not expose yourself to something. Is someone who is, say, obese and bedridden "avoiding" sun exposure?

Re:Avoidance of sun exposure as a risk factor for major caus... by assmanreturns on Monday May 20, 2024 @12:45AM (#40412331)
Sure. This is in every single study using surveys or statistics and yet everyone thinks the paper is making a casual argument. The paper itself actually does do that. So the whole limitations part is just ass covering for the fact that the authors are lying.

Why call it anything else. I mean it's like me writing a long paper proving that thermodynamics is flawed and then ending the paper with some acknowledgement that one of the key arguments has a logical flaw which renders the whole proof incorrect. So then the whole paper is worthless.

Re:Avoidance of sun exposure as a risk factor for major caus... by cpncrunch on Monday May 20, 2024 @12:53AM (#40412367)
They do adjust the results for certain lifestyle factors, in particular exercise and smoking. They are just pointing out that they can't correct for all lifestyle factors.
Re:Avoidance of sun exposure as a risk factor for major caus... by SaintSeiya on Monday May 20, 2024 @01:57AM (#40412690)
Found a sun avoidance advocate.
Re:Avoidance of sun exposure as a risk factor for major caus... by jhguibcdtt on Monday May 20, 2024 @02:12AM (#40412776)
You should look into Big Shade, quite shocking stuff.