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Re:Big Tech to EU: "Drop Dead" by mrweasel on Sunday May 19, 2024 @03:01AM (#40404826)
They can't, Apple management have a responsibility to its shareholders and pull out of the EU or even threatening to do so would hurt the stock price.

Also imaging the marketing spin you'd have to create: No no, we can't do business in the EU do to it's consumer protection laws. China is fine, they just execute or forcefully re-educate people, much easier people to do business with.

Re:Big Tech to EU: "Drop Dead" by nl on Sunday May 19, 2024 @04:33AM (#40405316)
> They can't, Apple management have a responsibility to its shareholders and pull out of the EU or even threatening to do so would hurt the stock price.

This isn't how "responsibility to its shareholders" works.

While it's true activist shareholders often launch lawsuits over issues they don't like in the US, they are rarely successful and more often looking for a settlement involving a secondary, less significant issue.

US Courts have repeatedly given a large amount of freedom to management to do whatever they want in terms of "delivering shareholder value". They allow management so consider long term goals against next quarter (as they should).

Additionally there's an excellent precedent for this: Google withdrawing from the Chinese market. There are other precedents for threats like this: Both Facebook and Google threatened to withdraw from Australia in various forms during negotiations over payments for news.

(Not arguing this is a good idea, just that it's completely within the realm of what Apple could do).

Re:Big Tech to EU: "Drop Dead" by portaouflop on Sunday May 19, 2024 @05:25AM (#40405557)
Anything is in the realm of possibilities. Apple could shut down all of their business tomorrow - just because it’s possible it’s still extremely unlikely. Apple will 100% never turn its back on the EU and I’m willing to take any bet on that.
Re:Big Tech to EU: "Drop Dead" by nl on Sunday May 19, 2024 @08:30AM (#40406513)
Sure. I'm certainly not arguing against that - just the limited point where the OP is misunderstanding what "responsibility to its shareholders" actually means under law and in practice.
Re:Big Tech to EU: "Drop Dead" by bee_rider on Sunday May 19, 2024 @12:00PM (#40407770)
They don’t have any responsibility to optimize the short term stock price. They could decide that long term the changes required to stay in the EU were too onerous on their business and pull out. I think they’d be wrong, but they could do it.
Re:Big Tech to EU: "Drop Dead" by nephanth on Sunday May 19, 2024 @05:42PM (#40409970)
Modern power structures, especially for a publicly-traded company, incentivize short-term profit over long-term viability.

That is because they have a responsibility to the current shareholders, not the future ones