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Re:Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI by luma on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @06:57AM (#40365235)
Are you suggesting that the OAI investment was not a good investment for MS?
Re:Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI by lenerdenator on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @07:10AM (#40365315)
Have they earned a return on it yet?

Seriously asking; I've purchased a GitHub CoPilot license subscription but I don't know what their sales numbers are doing on AI in general. It's to be seen if it can be made more cost-efficient to deliver to consumers.

Re:Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI by luma on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @08:09AM (#40365840)
Checking MSFT price, seems like the market thinks they made the right move and the shareholders are for sure seeing a return.
Re:Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI by whoknowsidont on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @08:28AM (#40366027)
The market thinks Tesla is worth more than all other automakers combined, that GameStop is a reasonable investment, and laying off engineers is great!
Re:Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI by sonotathrowaway on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @09:51AM (#40366954)
Until it one day it doesn’t. It’s very fickle.
Re:Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI by chucke1992 on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @08:59AM (#40366331)
Because Tesla is. Unlike the traditional automakers that have no room of growth and in a perpetual stagnation, Tesla has potential being a partially automative and partially tech industry. They can even have their own mobile phones if they want to. Or robots and stuff.

What Mercedes, Porsche, Audi can do aside continue to produce the cars over and over again until they are overtaken by somebody else? Hell, both EU and USA need tariffs to compete with chinese automakers.

Re:Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI by cityofdelusion on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @01:18PM (#40369752)
Not quite. Tesla has a high valuation mostly because traditional auto carries an enormous amount of debt on their balance sheets. I think Tesla is one economic downturn in a high interest rate environment from meeting the same fate. Once an auto company is loaded with debt, they get stuck in a low margin cycle where the little profit they make has to go into new debt for retooling and factories. Tesla is very much still coasting from zero interest rate free VC money times.
Re:Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI by DeathArrow on Thursday May 16, 2024 @03:10AM (#40375934)
But the market is always right.
Re:Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI by rchaud on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @08:52AM (#40366260)
What % of stock movements do you attribute to OAI, vs the cash-generation behemoth that is Windows/Office/Azure?
Re:Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI by djeastm on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @08:55AM (#40366291)
Increased price of a company is indeed the expectation of future profits, but until those profits hit the balance sheet they are unrealized