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Re:GPT-4o by ben_w on Tuesday May 14, 2024 @03:14AM (#40352471)
Is it even possible to "get off the internet" without also leaving civilisation in general at this point?

> it'd have to be impacting the real world

By writing business plans? Getting lawyers punished because they didn't realise that "passes bar exam" isn't the same as "can be relied on for citations"? By defrauding people with synthesised conversations using stolen voices? By automating and personalising propaganda?

Or does it only count when it's guiding a robot that's not merely a tech demo?

Re:GPT-4o by t4ng0pwn3d on Tuesday May 14, 2024 @04:00AM (#40352699)
I’ll be worried about jobs being removed entirely by LLMs when I see something outside of the tech bubble genuinely having been removed by one - has there been any real cases of this? It seems like hyperbole. Most people in the world don’t even know this exists. Comparing it to the internet is insane, based off of its status as a highly advanced auto complete.
Re:GPT-4o by ben_w on Tuesday May 14, 2024 @05:21AM (#40353186)
> has there been any real cases of this?

Apparently so: https://www.businessinsider.com/jobs-lost-in-may-because-of-...

Note that this article is about a year old now.

> Comparing it to the internet is insane, based off of its status as a highly advanced auto complete.

(1) I was quoting you.

(2) Don't you get some cognitive dissonance dismissing it in those terms, at this point?

"Fancy auto complete" was valid for half the models before InstructGPT, as that's all the early models were even trying to be… but now? The phrase doesn't fit so well when it's multimodal and can describe what it's seeing or hearing and create new images and respond with speech, all as a single unified model, any more than dismissing a bee brain as "just chemistry" or a human as "just an animal".

Re:GPT-4o by etherlord on Tuesday May 14, 2024 @05:43AM (#40353313)
800 million dollar studio expansion halted - https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/feb/23/tyler-per...
Re:GPT-4o by drawkward on Tuesday May 14, 2024 @07:10AM (#40353873)
Thank god! Enough Medea, already! I chalk this up as a win for humanity.
Re:GPT-4o by etherlord on Tuesday May 14, 2024 @07:37AM (#40354058)
Sure, but think about all of the jobs that won't exist because this studio isn't being expanded, well beyond just whatever shows stop being produced. Construction, manufacturing, etc
Re:GPT-4o by pas on Tuesday May 14, 2024 @08:58AM (#40354746)
Not like there's nothing else to construct.

Maybe it's time to construct some (high[er] density) housing where people want to live? No? Okay, then maybe next decade ... but then let's construct transport for them so they can get to work, how about some new subway lines? Ah, okay, not that either.

Then I guess the only thing remains to construct is all the factories that will be built as companies decouple from China.

Re:GPT-4o by PanPirat on Tuesday May 14, 2024 @09:33AM (#40355067)
"By 2005 or so, it will become clear that the Internet’s impact on the economy has been no greater than the fax machine’s."

~ Paul Krugman, winner of the 2008 Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences