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Re:Apple and Google deliver support for unwanted tracking al... by sandworm101 on Monday May 13, 2024 @04:00PM (#40347660)
>> helping you find things that are lost, nothing more.

So it is now on me to know whether my object is lost or stolen? Even if I magically knew all the details, that isn't a bright line rule. One person's "lost" luggage is another's stolen electronics. Clearly, more people are using these things to track down stuff that has been taken rather than find the remote control lost somewhere in their living room.

Will apple allow people to disable the tracking of other people's iPhones too in the name of privacy? What if my wife leaves her phone in my car? Can I get tracking disabled on that phone so she cannot track my location?

Re:Apple and Google deliver support for unwanted tracking al... by happyopossum on Monday May 13, 2024 @04:15PM (#40347864)
> So it is now on me to know whether my object is lost or stolen?

This isn't new - AirTags have always been this way. The only thing changing today is the cross-platform and 'standard' aspect to it...

Re:Apple and Google deliver support for unwanted tracking al... by microtherion on Monday May 13, 2024 @05:11PM (#40348485)
> So it is now on me to know whether my object is lost or stolen?

No. AirTags let you track your objects whether they are lost or stolen. It's just that they also alert potential thieves to their presence, so any reasonably competent thief will be able to disable them.

> Clearly, more people are using these things to track down stuff that has been taken rather than find the remote control lost somewhere in their living room.

My use cases are to (a) find items that I misplaced or lost somewhere on my own. (b) track the whereabouts of luggage that got lost by an airline.

These cases are not particularly hindered by anti-stalking mechanisms.

Re:Apple and Google deliver support for unwanted tracking al... by cyberax on Monday May 13, 2024 @05:19PM (#40348581)
> My use cases are to (a) find items that I misplaced or lost somewhere on my own. (b) track the whereabouts of luggage that got lost by an airline.

You are technically not allowed AirTags in luggage because they contain li-ion batteries.

Re:Apple and Google deliver support for unwanted tracking al... by Jtsummers on Monday May 13, 2024 @05:27PM (#40348693)
AirTags are allowed in checked bags.

https://www.faa.gov/sites/faa.gov/files/hazmat/packsafe/reso...

The battery would be under the "In Equipment" column, not the "Spare" column.

Re:Apple and Google deliver support for unwanted tracking al... by jerlam on Monday May 13, 2024 @05:51PM (#40348916)
Nor do AirTags contain lithium ion batteries, they use standard non-rechargable CR2032 cells.
Re:Apple and Google deliver support for unwanted tracking al... by Jtsummers on Monday May 13, 2024 @06:07PM (#40349090)
CR2032 batteries are lithium batteries, so they do fall under the rules for "Spares" (no to checked baggage). They are permitted "In Equipment" for checked baggage. They are on the "Lithium Metal" row as one of the three example photos.
Re:Apple and Google deliver support for unwanted tracking al... by eropple on Monday May 13, 2024 @06:20PM (#40349215)
Re:Apple and Google deliver support for unwanted tracking al... by microtherion on Tuesday May 14, 2024 @10:16AM (#40355461)
At some point, airlines were raising concerns, but the rules have changed.

When I recently pointed out to the lost luggage department at an airport that I knew for a fact that the luggage (or at least the tracker) was right at the airport, they did not appear to be surprised or concerned at all.

Re:Apple and Google deliver support for unwanted tracking al... by dragonwriter on Tuesday May 14, 2024 @09:33AM (#40355078)
> Clearly, more people are using these things to track down stuff that has been taken

Clearly, adding “clearly” before a slight rephrasing of the unsupported assertion made upthread doesn't turn it into a supported claim.