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A comment on Discord has been using ML to determine the gender and age of some of its users.

Re:Discord has been using ML to determine the gender and age... by tacocataco on Monday May 13, 2024 @03:09PM (#40347072)
The beginning of enshitification of discord (while 100% expected) for some reason hits harder then any other service I've used throughout all these years. It has entirely replaced social media for me. It just felt more organic to me then anything else.

So... since I've heard about the ads coming to discord, I have looked into alternatives.

They do exist, in varying quality, and there are programs for some of them that make a "bridge" from a discord server to your new platform. It's possible to have your cake and eat it to.

Matrix looks really close, but it needs ALOT of love. I have high hopes for matrix because of the idea of it. Perhaps my lackluster experience was because I didn't choose the best client available. I'm still trying new things here.

https://matrix.org/

Revolt is the more complete product as of today.

https://revolt.chat/

Spacebar I have yet to try but it's on my radar.

https://github.com/spacebarchat

I just wanted to see if anyone else had other recommendations for me to try. I really would appreciate help here. Hopefully something open source and self hosted so I can stop migrating and sink some roots in somewhere.

Oh crap, is it IRC?

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Re:Discord has been using ML to determine the gender and age... by Stephen304 on Monday May 13, 2024 @04:53PM (#40348282)
Revolt's UI looks super nice, I just wish it was connected to Matrix on the backend so I could use it with all the communities I participate in on matrix.
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Re:Discord has been using ML to determine the gender and age... by thorncorona on Monday May 13, 2024 @04:24PM (#40347980)
Been following Mikoto[https://github.com/mikotoIO/mikoto] which seems like a Discord replacement on steroids.
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Re:Discord has been using ML to determine the gender and age... by eTomte on Monday May 13, 2024 @03:25PM (#40347253)
I'm a big fan of Matrix, and run a small homeserver for my family in friends. But if you really want to explore the frontiers peer to peer seems really intriguing because you don't need any server. https://tox.chat/ just to name one.
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Re:Discord has been using ML to determine the gender and age... by eTomte on Monday May 13, 2024 @03:28PM (#40347292)
Quiet, Briar, and Keet are some other p2p chats
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Re:Discord has been using ML to determine the gender and age... by NoboruWataya on Monday May 13, 2024 @04:27PM (#40348020)
I understand and sympathise, but Discord is one service I just stayed away from because I could see the enshittification coming a mile off. And I'm disappointed every time I see an open source project house its community on Discord. I hoped that people would learn from the painful experience with Reddit's enshittification but apparently not.
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Re:Discord has been using ML to determine the gender and age... by karaterobot on Monday May 13, 2024 @03:23PM (#40347232)
I've been hosting a Mattermost server as an invite-only chat board for about six years. Slack is the direct comp. Mattermost is not immune to being enshittified either, but at least I get some warning: I can read the patch notes before updating the server, and when I see they've turned fully evil, I just won't upgrade the server, and we can start looking for an escape route before the clients break.

Since I own the server, I have some confidence I'm the only person who can possibly read the user data too. That is to say, I know that I won't do it, whereas I believe Discord and Slack would.

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Re:Discord has been using ML to determine the gender and age... by shrimp_emoji on Monday May 13, 2024 @03:12PM (#40347107)
I'm just happy they resisted the buyout by Microsoft.

> Matrix looks really close, but it needs ALOT of love.

Matrix is just a protocol. Clients competing with Discord would be things like Element. https://element.io/

It's no Discord (which itself is no WLM, by the way -- rip to oldschool fat clients which had even less of a business model and whose features you can't have at all or have to pay for now), but I sorely hope it or something open source gets there one day.

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