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Re:Telegram has launched a pretty intense campaign to malign... by shiandow on Monday May 13, 2024 @07:57AM (#40342267)
Not sure if you've got your sequence of events straight. End-to-end encryption was added to Whatsapp after it was bought by Facebook, before the co-founder of Whatsapp left to found Signal.

It's not as simple as Signal inspiring Facebook and Whatsapp, the sequence of events happened in reverse order.

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Re:Telegram has launched a pretty intense campaign to malign... by tomek_ycomb on Monday May 13, 2024 @09:06AM (#40342892)
I think this not wrong but mildly misleading.

Whatsapp started encrypting messages after significant security issues in ~2012

It was purchased by Facebook under initially some administration separation terms in ~2014?

In 2016 it added e2e encryption. If I recall this was controversial because it limits fb ad potential on users.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that the timeline seems to me to still be pointing towards <<e2e came from Whatsapp not FB as an initiative, even if FB owned Whatsapp at the time.>>

Again you're not factually wrong, but I hope my restating of the timeline makes it more clear why i I think your reverse order point doesn't tell the same story.

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Re:Telegram has launched a pretty intense campaign to malign... by shiandow on Monday May 13, 2024 @09:22AM (#40343065)
Your explanation is definitely better than mine. I just wanted to rebuke the notion that it was Signal who inspired Whatsapp to use e2e.
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