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Re:eu/acc by hjanssen on Monday May 13, 2024 @06:57AM (#40341771)
German here.

If the way you are building a product requires you to risk the well being of your employees, which these laws are designed to protect, you and your product are not welcome here.

Please build it somewhere else.

Re:eu/acc by constantcrying on Monday May 13, 2024 @07:40AM (#40342092)
German here as well.

This is a trade of. Startups can be extremely lucrative for people willing to take that risk. These laws exist to prevent abuse, yes, but they also prevent highly driven people from engaging in high risk, high reward economic activities.

As I said Germany does not want startups to exist. The only way the German economy can stay competitive if is the large German tech corporations are able to stay competitive.

Re:eu/acc by rsp1984 on Tuesday May 14, 2024 @01:45PM (#40357867)
If you don't want to work hard (10h+ per day) at a startup, then don't. Nobody's forcing you. Working at a startup and finding it's not for you? Just quit! You can just walk out the door. Nobody's forcing you to stay.

Germany is really great in treating its citizens like infants and it shows.

Re:eu/acc by leaveyou on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @08:58AM (#40366325)
Don't play naive.. the laws and regulations are not put in place for that percent of business owners/managers that would not abuse their employees out of principle even when they can, it's for the other ones that do.
Re:eu/acc by constantcrying on Wednesday May 15, 2024 @09:48AM (#40366924)
There are actually employees a company is allowed to abuse more than their "regular" workers, namely managers.

If there was a legal category for "startup employee", with significantly fewer protections, but who can only be employed with a minimum wage of e.g. 3x the average income, would you object to that?