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Re:Flame: Massive cyber-attack discovered, researchers say by LiquidSummer on Monday May 28, 2012 @11:38AM (#4033804)
I always hesitate a little bit when I open a pdf, specially when it is one on malware
Re:Flame: Massive cyber-attack discovered, researchers say by FreakLegion on Monday May 28, 2012 @04:39PM (#4034855)
Note that while the exploit is in the PDF, the vulnerability is in the PDF reader. In practice, Adobe's software is the only attack surface anyone ever exploits, so you can read exploit-laden PDFs worry-free by using a less popular alternative. The same is true with Word/Excel files, etc.

You should still have some kind of comprehensive security solution in place, particularly for a business environment, but use of non-standard software is an effective fail-safe for when your "real" security craps out on you (as it inevitably will).

Re:Flame: Massive cyber-attack discovered, researchers say by makomk on Tuesday May 29, 2012 @03:58PM (#4039433)
I've no idea why everyone only exploits Adobe's software though. For instance, pretty much all the open source PDF readers are based on a single PDF library called Poppler with a history of security vulnerabilities - exploit that and you should be able exploit all of them in one fell swoop.
Re:Flame: Massive cyber-attack discovered, researchers say by missing_cipher on Monday May 28, 2012 @12:05PM (#4033909)
Would opening a pdf via Chrome for example provide any extra protection? From what I understand most of the exploits are because of embedded media, no?
Re:Flame: Massive cyber-attack discovered, researchers say by LiquidSummer on Monday May 28, 2012 @12:20PM (#4033973)
Extra protection as opposed to opening it in adobe reader, yes, much likely. Chrome has a sandbox for pdfs as far as I'm aware, they also provide a lot of big bug bounties to people who find any remote execution bugs in Chrome. So, in conclusion, yes, chrome provides relatively more security than other software when opening PDFs.
Re:Flame: Massive cyber-attack discovered, researchers say by Danieru on Monday May 28, 2012 @01:17PM (#4034157)
Even better would be firefox's javascript based pdf reader.
Re:Flame: Massive cyber-attack discovered, researchers say by rbanffy on Monday May 28, 2012 @01:23PM (#4034184)
You can always open it inside a throwaway VM. I keep a couple ;-)
Re:Flame: Massive cyber-attack discovered, researchers say by rbanffy on Monday May 28, 2012 @01:19PM (#4034171)
It depends: will you render it using Adobe's software?
Re:Flame: Massive cyber-attack discovered, researchers say by swatkat on Monday May 28, 2012 @02:32PM (#4034454)
IIRC, both Adobe Reader "Protected Mode"[1] and Chromium "sandbox"[2] are built on Windows user-mode sandbox framework[3]. Basically, things like principle of least privilege and disable writes etc.

[1]http://blogs.adobe.com/asset/2010/10/inside-adobe-reader-pro...

[2]http://dev.chromium.org/developers/design-documents/sandbox

[3]http://blogs.msdn.com/b/david_leblanc/archive/2007/07/27/pra...

Re:Flame: Massive cyber-attack discovered, researchers say by acdha on Monday May 28, 2012 @10:16PM (#4035648)
Security is all about execution: Chrome has an enviable track record; Adobe has an embarrassing one. They could change that but it's unclear that they're motivated to build up serious security competency (if they were, the manager in charge of their update process would be fired for cause)
Re:Flame: Massive cyber-attack discovered, researchers say by duaneb on Tuesday May 29, 2012 @01:19AM (#4036070)
Use chrome! It's probably more secure than downloading the PDF and opening it with Adobe software.
Re:Flame: Massive cyber-attack discovered, researchers say by josephkern on Tuesday May 29, 2012 @02:38AM (#4036234)
Adobe Reader X actually has a decent sandbox ... but you're generally correct, I would trust chrome more.
Re:Flame: Massive cyber-attack discovered, researchers say by duaneb on Tuesday May 29, 2012 @03:31AM (#4036381)
Wow, I take back my statement. I have more respect for Adobe now.
Re:Flame: Massive cyber-attack discovered, researchers say by jsz0 on Tuesday May 29, 2012 @12:32AM (#4035973)
For what it's worth if you're using OSX Lion Preview is sandboxed.