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Re:23% of bachelor's degrees and 43% of master's degrees hav... by borgdefense on Sunday May 12, 2024 @07:58AM (#40333711)
It is an interesting idea.

The real problem though are the ridiculous cost of state run schools.

As someone who has been out of college for 20 years, I can't believe what my state school charges now.

When I graduated my school was a good value compared to private options. That was the whole point of a state school.

Now the same school cost 4X what it does and I don't know if I could even get in when up against so many brilliant Indian and Chinese students. I assumed when I went the goal of the institution was for a more educated population in the state. That was the point of the huge difference in price for instate tuition.

Now it seems like some kind of money making racket.

Re:23% of bachelor's degrees and 43% of master's degrees hav... by ethbr1 on Sunday May 12, 2024 @08:56AM (#40334052)
Afaik, state schools have lost a lot of budget from states (in inflation-adjusted terms) compared to pre-90s.

Consequently, they balance the books by taking on more foreign/out-of-state students (who they can charge much more).

At the core, though, it appears to be a supply and demand problem: there's a ton of demand for people who want to go to college, colleges don't have the resources (or interest?) to expand supply, and so they raise prices because they can.

Re:23% of bachelor's degrees and 43% of master's degrees hav... by nradov on Monday May 13, 2024 @12:09AM (#40339720)
State schools have also been wasting a fortune on gold-plated facilities. I was just at UCSD yesterday and it was ridiculously nice. This is not a responsible use of tuition and tax dollars. We need an austerity program. If that makes the state schools less attractive to top students and professors then so be it.
Re:23% of bachelor's degrees and 43% of master's degrees hav... by ethbr1 on Monday May 13, 2024 @09:53AM (#40343398)
This is moreso a problem with government/not-for-profit budgetary processes and capex vs opex.

With government funding, it's use-it-or-lose-it. I.e. state legislature will definitely allocate it to something else next year, if they come in under-budget in a year.

Add on top of that that state schools have the NASA problem: they're effectively performing (to state legislature and donors) for their dinner. And big, splashy buildings (with dedication names!) impress both. And attract picky faculty and students.

With not-for-profit, facilities are one of the few allowed places you can dump excess cash.

I floated in another comment that government grant/loan programs should impose an ACA-style admin vs teaching cost cap on institutions for participation. Maybe for capex too?