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Re:Jellyfin 10.9.0 by rgoulter on Sunday May 12, 2024 @12:01AM (#40332203)
> I'm done with [Ubuntu], now Debian only with no regrets or downsides so far.

There's no OS in the world which has both of "requires no maintenance" and "receives all upgrades forever".

Re:Jellyfin 10.9.0 by metadat on Sunday May 12, 2024 @12:05AM (#40332213)
But 4 years is a pretty short time. Compare 4 years with the 20+ evil Microsoft Windows gives to pirates for free.. when $ms doesn't really have to.. dozens of years of compatibility. Linux sucks in this dimension, and I am a huge advocate professionally and personally of Linux.

Have you ever tried to install the latest Node.js and discovered your glibc.so is too old? It's a major impediment and just plain sucks, especially for open source.

Re:Jellyfin 10.9.0 by jauntywundrkind on Sunday May 12, 2024 @12:15AM (#40332246)
18.04 is from 2018. That's what the "18" means. That's 6 years.

Apt-get dist upgrade is really not hard. Learn it, do it.

Society & world has a necessity to not anchor itself to a distant past. In general I believe free software is moving at a bit more incremental pace, with some noticeable new innovation sprinkled in. But a 4.15 kernel from 2018 really is from a before time, before things started settling down. I have no respect for preserving those systems. Anchoring ourselves to the past is antithetical to open source's strengths.

Re:Jellyfin 10.9.0 by metadat on Sunday May 12, 2024 @12:16AM (#40332254)
It's hosed several of my machines before, please forgive me Father, but never again.
Re:Jellyfin 10.9.0 by m463 on Sunday May 12, 2024 @12:32AM (#40332294)
remember: desktop users want the latest software, now. server users want nothing to change, ever.
Re:Jellyfin 10.9.0 by BrandoElFollito on Sunday May 12, 2024 @06:44AM (#40333421)
Arch is quite close to that.

I moved from Debian to Arch for my main home server because I was fed up with reinstalling between versions. Now I think you can upgrade in place.

I will be back to Debian at some point because Arch requires me to remember to update. It works great but since I have everything on docker it depends not make much sense to be bleeding edge

Re:Jellyfin 10.9.0 by cassianoleal on Sunday May 12, 2024 @07:32AM (#40333559)
> reinstalling between versions

When did Debian require a reinstall between versions? I've been upgrading in place since around 1996. In those early years, sometimes upgrades had rough spots but that hasn't been the case for at least a couple decades.

Re:Jellyfin 10.9.0 by BrandoElFollito on Sunday May 12, 2024 @03:12PM (#40336734)
Nice track record! You may have used my tiny contribution to the kernel from ca. 1995 if you used a specific (but common) NIC at the time :)

I came back to Debian when it was 7 or 8 and installed it 6 months before the next release.

The upgrade notes made it very clear that in place upgrades are an abomination and that I will burn in hell if I do that. Or something like that.

So I reinstalled.

And took a Leo of faith in the next version by using "stable" as the distribution, apt dist-upgrade and all. It worked !

Maybe the alarming messages are now gone, good thing. I will be switching from arch to debian soon and stay there for ever.