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Re:The New Propaganda War by richrichie on Saturday May 11, 2024 @06:45AM (#40327319)
Applebaum is a known nat sec propagandist. Basically launders to the public whatever talking points the nat sec apparatus hands out.

Atlantic whining about the Russians and Chinese being as good as Americans in programming is a bit rich.

Re:The New Propaganda War by marmadukester39 on Saturday May 11, 2024 @07:59AM (#40327565)
using national security as though were intrinsically a bad word is a red flag in itself. You could restate this comment as “the American government is concerned about negative impacts of these developments and so we should ignore these efforts to subvert democracy, and so doing, accomplish the goals of the propagandists.”
Re:The New Propaganda War by richrichie on Saturday May 11, 2024 @10:16AM (#40328217)
A more succinct restatement: “Applebaum lies and so does The Atlantic. Assume the opposite of what they say is true.”
Re:The New Propaganda War by amazingman on Sunday May 12, 2024 @01:23AM (#40332417)
Your accusation, which is straight up ad hominem, reveals more about you than Applebaum. Applebaum is not only respected in her fields, but her logic tracks and her positions well reasoned and defensible. You may not agree with her, but that doesn't make her a propagandist.
Re:The New Propaganda War by richrichie on Sunday May 12, 2024 @03:57AM (#40332892)
Applebaum checks the standard neocon boxes and been a member of standard nat sec talking points laundering cutouts - Carnegie, WaPo, The Atlantic, etc. Some of us have not forgotten those who cheered on the Iraq war based on lies that led to a million people dead, displaced or maimed. Applebaum cheered on every single war in the name of democracy. So yes, her grandstanding about democracy and propaganda does not pass muster among well informed people.