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Re:A Skeptic's Take on Beaming Power to Earth from Space by dwpdwpdwpdwpdwp on Friday May 10, 2024 @02:09PM (#40322040)
"Each megasat could then convert gigawatts of power into a microwave beam aimed precisely at a big field of receiving antennas on Earth. These rectennas would then convert the signal to usable DC electricity."

What are the consequences if, for some reason, the aim becomes not-so-precise?

Re:A Skeptic's Take on Beaming Power to Earth from Space by marcosdumay on Friday May 10, 2024 @02:22PM (#40322194)
I guess SimCity 2000 guaranteed this is the first thing everybody thinks about.

It seems that practicality and efficiency concerns limit the beam at between 10% to 30% of the solar intensity. Every single design falls in that range.

Re:A Skeptic's Take on Beaming Power to Earth from Space by bell-cot on Friday May 10, 2024 @03:08PM (#40322752)
Vague recollection from studying this years ago...

The "receiver" is more-or-less a field "covered" by a spiderweb of bent coat-hanger wire. That doesn't block the sun, and making it huge (low power/sq. m) is quite cheap.

Since you don't want clouds/rain/fog to block the microwaves, the frequencies you use are ones which water does not absorb well. So if the beam hits a person...he probably can't even notice it.

Re:A Skeptic's Take on Beaming Power to Earth from Space by _fizz_buzz_ on Saturday May 11, 2024 @01:18AM (#40326127)
But electronics probably would. I have fried a micro-controller with a leaky industrial microwave waveguide before.
Re:A Skeptic's Take on Beaming Power to Earth from Space by bell-cot on Saturday May 11, 2024 @06:35AM (#40327281)
Yes and no. On the (figurative) day when microwave power transmission becomes normal, designing & building electronics so they are relatively immune (or can leech power if needed) will also become normal. Because stuff that isn't immune will go wonky in enough circumstances (driving near a ground receiver, etc.) that consumers will notice, and get pissed.
Re:A Skeptic's Take on Beaming Power to Earth from Space by banish-m4 on Friday May 10, 2024 @02:40PM (#40322394)
Futurama predicted it: https://youtu.be/0qksm5cRtcU

Unfortunately, most of these impossible proposals lack any form of passive failsafe. Plus, the insurance liability question maybe an unsurmountable unknown.

Re:A Skeptic's Take on Beaming Power to Earth from Space by pfdietz on Friday May 10, 2024 @03:48PM (#40323128)
The beam is controlled by a signal beamed from the rectenna, which controls the phase of the emitters at the satellite. If this fails, the emitters go out of phase and no beam is formed.
Re:A Skeptic's Take on Beaming Power to Earth from Space by TheLoafOfBread on Saturday May 11, 2024 @08:39AM (#40327702)
1) That's a happy path which might or might not work during malfunction. Imagine a terrorist deliberately disabling an original control signal and then using his own control signal to steer the beam on the city.

2) Beam can be used as a weapon if you will just point it and light it up and thus deploy would be sooner or later heavily restricted or outright banned like nuclear weapons in space are banned.

Re:A Skeptic's Take on Beaming Power to Earth from Space by throw9474 on Friday May 10, 2024 @03:41PM (#40323061)
Re:A Skeptic's Take on Beaming Power to Earth from Space by dirkt on Saturday May 11, 2024 @04:27AM (#40326817)
Which sort of leads itself to military usage...

And Wikipedia is only talking about humans, not about electronics, which are much more sensitive to microwaves. Want to fry the enemy's electronics? Just focus that "civilian" microwave transmitter with a few GW power tightly on where you want it to be.

I am really surprised nobody talks about this whenver space-based power transmission is mentioned.

Re:A Skeptic's Take on Beaming Power to Earth from Space by throw9474 on Saturday May 11, 2024 @11:49AM (#40328846)
If you trace the money, every researcher working on space based power is getting money from DoD.
Re:A Skeptic's Take on Beaming Power to Earth from Space by snickerbockers on Friday May 10, 2024 @02:45PM (#40322466)
most of these proposals are downright ridiculous because they're couched in environmentalism but they act like nature will be totally fine to have a giant microwave laser or an artificial second moon.
Re:A Skeptic's Take on Beaming Power to Earth from Space by eagerpace on Friday May 10, 2024 @03:43PM (#40323077)
Goldeneye
Re:A Skeptic's Take on Beaming Power to Earth from Space by simonblack on Friday May 10, 2024 @03:59PM (#40323229)
And what if the aim is deliberately aimed at an enemy city?
Re:A Skeptic's Take on Beaming Power to Earth from Space by micromacrofoot on Friday May 10, 2024 @02:51PM (#40322544)
It seems like it could be safer/easier to charge batteries in space and ship them back down... which probably speaks to the feasibility of ideas like this.