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Re:Apple apologizes for iPad 'Crush' ad that 'missed the mark' by Retric on Friday May 10, 2024 @01:57PM (#40321890)
> Their component materials have been homogenized before manufacturing to remove as much of the character of the original … as possible.

You also just described musical instruments. The goal is for them to sound identical to similar instruments and a great deal of effort controlling humidity etc falls under that umbrella. People in an Orchestra want specific sounds not just random character from their instruments.

> These were not developed with consumer electronics in mind.

By that token the harpsichord wasn’t invented with the piano in mind. There’s nothing wrong with this view, but it drops the ‘rich history of musical instruments’ to the work of a tiny number of innovators.

> Electricity itself was only discovered 300 years ago

Electricity (static shocks, lightning, some evidence for primitive battery etc) was known about since antiquity though obviously we only recently learned how to exploit it.

> The iPad air doesn't have 5000 years of history because that's when we started refining metals.

The rich history of glassmaking is directly relevant to the iPad and provides some of its most valuable features. If we discount that then the history of musical instruments again becomes one of a tiny number of lone inventors.

Apples to apples comparisons favor electronics here.

Re:Apple apologizes for iPad 'Crush' ad that 'missed the mark' by itishappy on Friday May 10, 2024 @02:09PM (#40322033)
> You also just described musical instruments.

Some. My experience has been that the diversity of instruments dwarfs that of electronics, with the possible exception of early Nokia phones. I bet this is largely driven by product lifecycle, as my saxophones are each over 10 years old and have been refurbished more than once. High-end professional instruments are often one-of-a-kind.

> The rich history of glassmaking is directly relevant to the iPad and provides some of its most valuable features.

I agree, but again I think it's a problem of intent. Glassmaking was improved to make decorations, then storage vessels, then optics, then cookware and labware, then electronics. Meanwhile people have been making bone flutes and leather drums for longer than they've been able to write about it.

Re:Apple apologizes for iPad 'Crush' ad that 'missed the mark' by Retric on Friday May 10, 2024 @05:17PM (#40323879)
> I think it’s a problem of intent.

The intent to create musical instruments is a tiny fraction of the history of woodworking etc. If you’re looking at things that narrowly there’s nothing particularly interesting left about em.

With that mindset a hammer has a much longer and richer history than a Tuba and musical instruments are just a trivial edge case crated as little more than novelty items.

On the other hand if you bring in the skills required to craft precision objects and the culture required to support such endeavors then tablets are clearly more wondrous.

Re:Apple apologizes for iPad 'Crush' ad that 'missed the mark' by itishappy on Friday May 10, 2024 @06:23PM (#40324331)
I'm not claiming all of woodworking as the history of musical instrument making, just that which was explicitly involved in the creation of musical instruments. We've been making musical instruments for a very long time. To your point though, I bet the history of hammers is even longer!

I think we're probably arguing semantics at this point. I totally agree that the amount of raw effort and technological progress that goes into tablet making dwarfs that which goes into an instrument.