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Re:The search for easier safe systems programming by cess11 on Wednesday May 08, 2024 @09:56AM (#40298175)
Why would MICROS~1 hate be something bizarre?

I find such hate quite understandable. I might not share it, but I would not put any trust in MICROS~1 either, especially not in a professional setting.

When I develop applications for MICROS~1 platforms, I do it in Java, betting that the Eclipse foundation and a plethora of corporations, including MICROS~1, aren't going to suddenly team up and do something nasty to the language and important libraries. With MICROS~1 as the lone manager of a language and most of its 'ecosystem' this seems like a real risk.

Re:The search for easier safe systems programming by naasking on Wednesday May 08, 2024 @10:10AM (#40298307)
> With MICROS~1 as the lone manager of a language and most of its 'ecosystem' this seems like a real risk.

Why? All of the code is MIT licensed. If MS does anything untoward, forking it is trivial.

Re:The search for easier safe systems programming by cess11 on Wednesday May 08, 2024 @11:15AM (#40299042)
Sure. Organising a community to care for the fork is not.
Re:The search for easier safe systems programming by naasking on Wednesday May 08, 2024 @11:49AM (#40299490)
Ximian and Mono were built almost immediately after .NET was released and provided a decent multiplatform community-supported alternative for years, but you somehow think that forking an existing and working codebase would be more difficult than a completely independent reimplementation?

Look, there are obvious differences in how Java and the JVM are maintained and evolved as compared to .NET, but to continue claiming that these differences really matter all that much is just FUD, to put it politely.

Re:The search for easier safe systems programming by cess11 on Wednesday May 08, 2024 @03:43PM (#40302092)
I made no such comparison.

No, it's not. Is Mono independent today?