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Re:Book People Think They Know Why 9-Year-Olds Stop Reading ... by allemagne on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @03:17PM (#40290286)
There's no good reason to think it's not phones.

The article kind of rejects this out of hand but I think it's mostly because that doesn't make for an article that touches on all the other topics the author wanted to write about.

>It might be screens, but it’s not only screens. It’s not like kids are suddenly getting their own phones at age 9; recent survey data from Common Sense Media reveals that phone ownership holds steady, at around 30 percent, among kids aged 8 and 9. (It isn’t until they reach 11 or 12 that the majority of American kids have their own phone.) Indeed, several people I spoke to mentioned that middle-graders’ lack of phones created a marketing problem in an era when no one at any publishing house has any idea how to make a book a bestseller other than to hope it blows up on TikTok.

So there's an uptick in reading for fun when the majority of 12 year olds have phones, allowing publishers to learn how to market to them? I really doubt it. Couldn't find anything supporting that in the Scholastic report where "decline by 9" comes from: https://www.scholastic.com/readingreport/navigate-the-world....

I think they're misinterpreting the Common Sense Media info they cite: https://www.commonsensemedia.org/sites/default/files/researc...

Age 8 is as far back as that data goes. If phone ownership started shooting up by 8, for example, it would make sense that it would take about a year for the reading habit to die off as much as it does.

Re:Book People Think They Know Why 9-Year-Olds Stop Reading ... by throwaway11460 on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @04:23PM (#40291010)
I had a phone since I was 8-9, and I used it to read under the table in class and everywhere else.

Wasn't the only one. We used infrared port to share books with other kids.

Re:Book People Think They Know Why 9-Year-Olds Stop Reading ... by nicbou on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @04:34PM (#40291124)
Why wouldn't it be phones?

I could read right now, but instead I'm on my nth round of the Hacker News front page. Reading competes against instant gratification, and it doesn't win as often as I'd like it to. Reading requires discipline when scrolling is an option.

Re:Book People Think They Know Why 9-Year-Olds Stop Reading ... by madrox on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @07:15PM (#40292607)
If this fact began in the last decade, I'd agree with you, but the linked Scholastic report shows this phenomenon pre-dates phones. Interest in reading at different ages has held steady dating back to at least 2010. 2010 is before most kids had their own smartphone. It also isn't like all kids suddenly get a smartphone at age 9.
Re:Book People Think They Know Why 9-Year-Olds Stop Reading ... by xandrius on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @05:08PM (#40291506)
Isn't HN mainly text? Aren't you reading?
Re:Book People Think They Know Why 9-Year-Olds Stop Reading ... by pugets on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @07:02PM (#40292526)
Reading, writing, discovering, voting, and convincing myself that in just one more minute I will return to my day.
Re:Book People Think They Know Why 9-Year-Olds Stop Reading ... by nicbou on Wednesday May 08, 2024 @07:47AM (#40296906)
Sort of. I think and exchange ideas, but I also scavenge mindlessly. I skim the comments, content myself with headlines. It's a far departure from sitting down with a single topic for a while.
Re:Book People Think They Know Why 9-Year-Olds Stop Reading ... by bagels on Wednesday May 08, 2024 @01:17AM (#40294587)
Isn't Hacker News reading, but just not novels?
Re:Book People Think They Know Why 9-Year-Olds Stop Reading ... by xandrius on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @05:08PM (#40291497)
I hated reading even before phones were "cool", I just didn't find it the best medium for me.

Now I still hate the act of reading but it's often eclipsed by the joy I get from acquiring new knowledge.

So no, it doesn't need to be phones.