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Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by codedokode on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @11:06AM (#40286508)
Isn't this weird, a new chip consumes 2 times less power, but the battery life is the same?
Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by rsynnott on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @11:15AM (#40286672)
The OLED likely adds a fair bit of draw; they're generally somewhat more power-hungry than LCDs these days, assuming like-for-like brightness. Realistically, this will be the case until MicroLEDs are available for non-completely-silly money.
Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by CoastalCoder on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @11:29AM (#40286927)
This surprises me. I thought the big power downside of LCD displays is that they use filtering to turn unwanted color channels into waste heat.

Knowing nothing else about the technology, I assumed that would make OLED displays more efficient.

Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by mensetmanusman on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @12:42PM (#40288056)
Can’t beat the thermodynamics of exciton recombination.

https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acsami.9b10823

Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by sroussey on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @01:17PM (#40288631)
OLED will use less for a screen of black and LCD will use less for a screen of white. Now, take whatever average of what content is on the screen and for you, it may be better or may be worse.

White background document editing, etc., will be worse, and this is rather common.

Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by masklinn on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @11:12AM (#40286630)
It's not weird when you consider that browsing the web or watching videos has the CPU idle or near enough, so 95% of the power draw is from the display and radios.
Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by beeboobaa3 on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @01:26PM (#40288763)
No, they have a "battery budget". It the CPU power draw goes down that means the budget goes up and you can spend it on other things, like a nicer display or some other feature.

When you say "up to 10 hours" most people will think "oh nice that's an entire day" and be fine with it. It's what they're used to.

Turning that into 12 hours might be possible but are the tradeoffs worth it? Will enough people buy the device because of the +2 hour battery life? Can you market that effectively? Or will putting in a nicer fancy display cause more people to buy it?

We'll never get significant battery life improvements because of this, sadly.