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Re:Can turning office towers into apartments save downtowns? by darby_eight on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @10:14AM (#40285713)
Don't you mean the opposite? Surely the crime comes from the financial instability. I don't see how you could address the crime without addressing the financial instability.
Re:Can turning office towers into apartments save downtowns? by walkabilitee on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @12:54PM (#40288258)
Causation goes both ways. Intelligent, educated, and well-paid Hacker News posters often don't understand the cloud of chaos, crime, poor decision-making, and deflected blame that hovers over the lives of many poor people. Section 8 landlords understand that while such people may comprise a minority of their tenants (or not), it only takes one to ruin a building and the surrounding neighborhood.

On a certain level this is common knowledge, reflected in the real estate markets of all big American cities. Dirt-cheap housing stock can be found in large swaths of Detroit, Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Louis, et cetera. It's cheap because even the most desperate families would rather live anywhere else, around anyone else.

Re:Can turning office towers into apartments save downtowns? by MisterBastahrd on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @01:52PM (#40289145)
Meanwhile, we refuse to house our homeless but will give $6.5B to Samsung to build a chip plant.
Re:Can turning office towers into apartments save downtowns? by cynicalsecurity on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @02:47PM (#40289896)
Prioritising homeless doesn't contribute to the society, prioritising plants, factories and businesses contributes.
Re:Can turning office towers into apartments save downtowns? by MisterBastahrd on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @05:42PM (#40291867)
Prioritising business just concentrates money in the hands of people who already have money while nothing to address the day to day concerns of actual people.
Re:Can turning office towers into apartments save downtowns? by walkabilitee on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @06:57PM (#40292492)
Did you read my comment about a largeish portion of the actual people?
Re:Can turning office towers into apartments save downtowns? by rangestransform on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @01:45PM (#40289017)
concentrating/diffusing poverty is a different axis of policy vs. housing/not housing the destitute

the unfortunate circumstances surrounding NYCHA properties was due to concentrating poverty, in singapore public housing is economically integrated so as to avoid the same problem