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Re:Proton Mail Discloses User Data Leading to Arrest in Spain by pc86 on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @09:08AM (#40285004)
If your threat model is "utilize secure email/VPN/tor to evade organizations on the spectrum of [law enforcement...intelligence services]" you are not a typical user even of those services and saying that it's on you to understand all the corner cases and tricks to avoid persecution, prosecution, execution, etc. seems pretty reasonable.
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Re:Proton Mail Discloses User Data Leading to Arrest in Spain by wepple on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @10:14AM (#40285718)
I wouldn’t call it reasonable.

If you’re trying to evade LE because it’s illegal to be gay in your country, and you get caught because you’d listed an Apple address in your ProtonMail account - can’t we design better products to make this less likely?

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Re:Proton Mail Discloses User Data Leading to Arrest in Spain by pjlegato on Wednesday May 08, 2024 @12:43PM (#40300148)
Who gets to decide which specific sorts of evasion of law enforcement are acceptable?

Should we consult your personal moral preferences for that, as applied to each of the 200+ countries on the planet? Why do your preferences overrule those jurisdictions' decisions?

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Re:Proton Mail Discloses User Data Leading to Arrest in Spain by wepple on Wednesday May 08, 2024 @02:44PM (#40301553)
I think you’ve completely missed the point.

Folks who design products that are trying to protect privacy should do their absolute best to sand down the sharp edges and make them secure-by-default wherever possible.

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Re:Proton Mail Discloses User Data Leading to Arrest in Spain by azuravian on Wednesday May 22, 2024 @10:27AM (#40441426)
I think there is a fairly straightforward answer to this question. It is always acceptable to evade law enforcement for anything related to laws restricting human rights as outlined in either the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, or the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights.
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