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Re:DNS traffic can leak outside the VPN tunnel on Android by mise_en_place on Friday May 03, 2024 @12:26PM (#40249459)
> Other commenters report that Android will silently re-enable cell data under various conditions

This is terrifying.

Re:DNS traffic can leak outside the VPN tunnel on Android by autoexec on Friday May 03, 2024 @01:31PM (#40250145)
It's expected. The people who own the phones aren't in control of the OS and the wireless chipsets are closed/proprietary. Cellphones really shouldn't be trusted by anyone.
Re:DNS traffic can leak outside the VPN tunnel on Android by mise_en_place on Friday May 03, 2024 @01:42PM (#40250254)
Correct, the baseband usually has binary blobs. Although I am curious why Google/Apple decided not to make their own baseband, given their new silicon manufacturing expertise.
Re:DNS traffic can leak outside the VPN tunnel on Android by adamomada on Friday May 03, 2024 @04:22PM (#40251963)
IIRC Apple has tried/is trying, but it is ridiculously complex to the point that they had to go back to Qualcomm as there really is no other option. Read: The biggest tech co on the planet stumbles with this, it should be considered a magic box as this point.
Re:DNS traffic can leak outside the VPN tunnel on Android by Too on Friday May 03, 2024 @02:21PM (#40250660)
Armchair speculation: Patents?
Re:DNS traffic can leak outside the VPN tunnel on Android by nolist_policy on Saturday May 04, 2024 @04:57AM (#40256038)
Google is sort of trying by using a Samsung modem (instead of Qualcomm) with an IOMMU in between, so at least the modem doesn't have access to the whole address space like on other phones. But they get a lot of flack for it.
Re:DNS traffic can leak outside the VPN tunnel on Android by spxneo on Friday May 03, 2024 @03:20PM (#40251265)
so then whats the other alternative?

solder on some ESPs on an old playstation portable device and connect from starbucks?

Re:DNS traffic can leak outside the VPN tunnel on Android by autoexec on Friday May 03, 2024 @03:30PM (#40251372)
Right now we have no alternatives, but it's not technologically impossible to create mobile devices that give us root access to a mobile OS, or to create open wireless chipsets with open firmware.
Re:DNS traffic can leak outside the VPN tunnel on Android by nickburns on Friday May 03, 2024 @01:37PM (#40250204)
i'm almost certain i've had it happen on iOS, too. only reason i can't definitively say—is because i can't rule myself out always having to manually toggle cell data on/off, both radio-level and per-app, when i'm coming/going from my own networks to my mobile VPN.
Re:DNS traffic can leak outside the VPN tunnel on Android by spixy on Friday May 03, 2024 @04:13PM (#40251868)
even in roaming?
Re:DNS traffic can leak outside the VPN tunnel on Android by tredre3 on Friday May 03, 2024 @08:35PM (#40253845)
Both Android and iOS will do that when you receive a MMS.

Even if the MMS is supposedly on an intranet, it wouldn't surprise be that a poor implementation might expose the rest of the system to internet for a brief moment.