Re:Saudi Arabia activist sentenced to 11 years for 'support'...
by GuardianCaveman on Wednesday May 01, 2024 @07:21PM
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She's lucky they didn't execute her. I lived there and had peers pressure me to go to see the Friday executions in Riyadh but these are the type of people they are executing, not rapists and murderers. I can only hope I live long enough to see their oil money run out and watch what happens next. It turns my stomach how they can get these soccer players and golf leagues and all this other sportswashing.
Re:Saudi Arabia activist sentenced to 11 years for 'support'...
by reaperman on Wednesday May 01, 2024 @07:43PM
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I also lived there and was under the impression that a lot of people slated for execution for crimes against a specific person very often tended to get pardoned / execution stayed by the victim or their surviving family. There was a widespread belief rooted in Islam that pardoning someone sentenced to death was equivalent to saving their life, and this would help assure that the benevolent family members would be accepted into heaven.
I think it's harder to get your execution if your crime is against the state, because there's no one who would benefit in the afterlife from commuting your sentence. (I assume that anyone in power who could has plenty of other subjects to grant leniency to, and don't have any particular religious pressure to take advantage of any individual opportunity to do so.)
Re:Saudi Arabia activist sentenced to 11 years for 'support'...
by standardUser on Wednesday May 01, 2024 @07:19PM
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I find it strange that there isn't a larger chorus in the US demanding to cut ties with Saudi Arabia over their perpetual and unapologetic human rights abuses. I guess all that money they spend on PR in the West has paid off.
Re:Saudi Arabia activist sentenced to 11 years for 'support'...
by aprilthird2021 on Wednesday May 01, 2024 @07:20PM
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I agree. The US has way too many terrible allies we should never be supporting. After they hacksawed the journalist who was living in exile in America and working for the Washington Post (whose children are American citizens), that was the US' chance to cut ties and once it passed, I started to think they'll probably never cut ties...
Re:Saudi Arabia activist sentenced to 11 years for 'support'...
by aprilthird2021 on Thursday May 02, 2024 @10:16AM
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The same Biden admin who is not sanctioning an IDF unit that killed and tortured and elderly American citizen in the West Bank pre Oct. 7? No, they wouldn't do anything differently for sure.
Re:Saudi Arabia activist sentenced to 11 years for 'support'...
by orwin on Thursday May 02, 2024 @03:40AM
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Weren't they protests at Universities a few years ago against either UAE or SA in the US? I think they asked for universities to stop investing in Saudi Arabia, it lasted like a week, the Universities said "OK", and that was it?
Re:Saudi Arabia activist sentenced to 11 years for 'support'...
by aprilthird2021 on Wednesday May 01, 2024 @07:19PM
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Another terrible US ally that I have no idea why we continue to support. Please dump all of them and spend our efforts on needy Americans who don't agree with jailing a woman because she's uppity.
I think it's harder to get your execution if your crime is against the state, because there's no one who would benefit in the afterlife from commuting your sentence. (I assume that anyone in power who could has plenty of other subjects to grant leniency to, and don't have any particular religious pressure to take advantage of any individual opportunity to do so.)
[1] https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/09/saudi-arabia-...
Unfortunately I think they are succeeding in diversifying their economy away from oil, and amongst businessmen these criminals are readily accepted.
But I'm fairly sure that's false hope.