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Re:Passkeys: A Shattered Dream by Nextgrid on Friday April 26, 2024 @03:41AM (#40166793)
Big problem with this is that enrolling the secondary passkey requires the authenticator to be present. This is super inconvenient and risky as it always requires both authenticators to be present at the same machine/physical location, exposing both to local, physical threats (faulty USB ports on your machine frying anything you plug in? Congrats, you've now fried your main and any backup authenticators before you realized what was happening).

Ideally, you should be able to get an authenticator's public key and be able to enroll one without presenting the authenticator itself, allowing you to keep it in a safe/etc.

This would enable an easy workflow - enroll main authenticator as normal, then enroll your safely-stored backup by pasting its public key. If you lose your main, go to your safe, get your backup and "promote" it to primary and enroll a new backup one which goes in the safe.

Re:Passkeys: A Shattered Dream by 4ad on Friday April 26, 2024 @04:08AM (#40166935)
This is why you need to enrol the secondary passkey at the same time you enrol the first one, not later when you might not have the authenticator present.

In reality websites should not allow setting up a single passkey.

Re:Passkeys: A Shattered Dream by cuu508 on Friday April 26, 2024 @06:46AM (#40167785)
Enrolling both at the same time still requires both authenticators to be present at the same machine/physical location.
Re:Passkeys: A Shattered Dream by e12e on Friday April 26, 2024 @06:47AM (#40167792)
Problem remains when you lose one, and need to block and enroll a new backup?
Re:Passkeys: A Shattered Dream by radicality on Friday April 26, 2024 @11:00AM (#40170258)
Apple actually forces you to use 2 keys when setting up security keys for iCloud, just did the setup few weeks ago.
Re:Passkeys: A Shattered Dream by PaulHoule on Friday April 26, 2024 @07:15AM (#40167956)
It always struck me that 2FA is a corporate suicide pact. Some percentage of users are going to lose their keys per year so your user base is going to decay like a radioactive element.
Re:Passkeys: A Shattered Dream by jorvi on Friday April 26, 2024 @08:02AM (#40168310)
That’s why most 2FA’s are 1.5FA by default where you can recover via SMS, delayed e-mail, etc, and you can (sometimes) only disable this by clicking through three scary screens and saving your 10 backup codes.