Agreed. Reddit is a bubble too if you take note of the viewpoints there, but that reaches a wider variety of folks. Imagine how much of a bubble HN is.

HN is a bubble where people listen to what you say even if you argue against them, I haven't found any such place anywhere else before. I've found some people who listen even to people they disagree with on some niche forums, but never a community as big as this with density this high.

Other than listening and arguing in relatively good faith I don't think HN is a bubble, although such people probably have pretty different opinions than the typical person simply because they listen and change themselves more so it gets more refined.

But isn't that the definition of a bubble - a group that doesn't behave the same as gen pop?

I would say this is the definition of a sub culture.

A bubble in this context has the connotation of ignorance of what is outside the bubble.

Indeed. Most of the commenters here really have no clue of what it going on and are just reacting to the headlines.

I'm very delighted that I bought GOOGL stock at $95 when it fell after everyone panicked at their Bard demo a year ago. [0]

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34713073

I'm bullish on GOOGL - Gemini 1.5 Pro is insanely good! GCP is also democratizing the cloud; I think the market share will only increase.

But isn't that exactly the problem with Google?

Everyone wants their shares to go up, more growth, which can then lead to questionable actions on their part. Did you see the recent article about search enshittification (tldr; to make key metrics go up, make search worse so that users have to make more queries to get what they want)?