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Re:Dedoimedo reviews Wayland in 2024 and comes to sad conclu... by okasaki on Thursday April 25, 2024 @06:50AM (#40155834)
Are we talking about Wayland or X11 here? Because like the article mentioned, Wayland is now 15 years old and still sucks. Sure sounds like the Wayland design is untenable.
Re:Dedoimedo reviews Wayland in 2024 and comes to sad conclu... by The_Colonel on Thursday April 25, 2024 @07:01AM (#40155917)
What's stopping you from using (and even developing) X11? It's an open competition.

Wayland might reach feature parity in 2, 5, 10, or 20 years, and I'm fine waiting, because while X11 can kinda work well now, its archaic design with 10 levels of hacks will likely make it extremely hard to support new needs (it already struggles with some existing use cases).

Re:Dedoimedo reviews Wayland in 2024 and comes to sad conclu... by Vilian on Thursday April 25, 2024 @07:33AM (#40156158)
it don't support multi-monitor setup lmao
Re:Dedoimedo reviews Wayland in 2024 and comes to sad conclu... by akaij on Thursday April 25, 2024 @03:08PM (#40161716)
Wayland? Sure does. I have been using sway for a while with three monitors; two of them 1080p, one 1440p.
Re:Dedoimedo reviews Wayland in 2024 and comes to sad conclu... by orangeboats on Thursday April 25, 2024 @06:55AM (#40155874)
> 15 years old and still sucks

People dragged their feet on Wayland support for at least 10 years.

Re:Dedoimedo reviews Wayland in 2024 and comes to sad conclu... by okasaki on Thursday April 25, 2024 @06:57AM (#40155890)
Yes, because it sucks.
Re:Dedoimedo reviews Wayland in 2024 and comes to sad conclu... by ahartmetz on Thursday April 25, 2024 @07:26AM (#40156105)
The real problem was that Wayland was extremely bare-bones initially and needed many extensions to approach the usefulness of X11 for desktop use - it basically just supported dispatching input and blitting rectangles. And initially, getting extensions standardized was like pulling teeth. These days, "obvious" extensions get in in a matter of months (about one DE release cycle), not to mention that most already exist by now.
Re:Dedoimedo reviews Wayland in 2024 and comes to sad conclu... by orangeboats on Thursday April 25, 2024 @07:00AM (#40155914)
Maybe because no one bothered to improve it for over a decade? ;)

The Wayland developers have limited manpower. Obviously it would take a long them for them to get Wayland to reach a critical mass when there wasn't support from the community.

Sort of feels like a self-fulfilling prophecy.