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Re:Biden signs TikTok 'ban' bill into law, starting clock fo... by hhjinks on Wednesday April 24, 2024 @04:31PM (#40149211)
Causing thousands of Americans to unknowingly act in the interest of the CCP is not the manipulation Congress is afraid of? In what universe?
Re:Biden signs TikTok 'ban' bill into law, starting clock fo... by genrilz on Wednesday April 24, 2024 @05:11PM (#40149703)
If I were a tech company who's service was about to be made illegal, I would certainly tell my users about it before I was shutdown. It would be pretty rude to suddenly cease function on them without letting them know why, and I think most users would like to know in advance of the service shutting down.

This could be interpreted as CCP manipulation, but what else did you expect them to do?

Re:Biden signs TikTok 'ban' bill into law, starting clock fo... by nebula8804 on Wednesday April 24, 2024 @04:50PM (#40149451)
Man you are just pushing one bad faith argument after another in this thread aren't you?

If the product wasn't something that people truly loved, would the callers have had that level of commitment to follow through?

Seeing the lack of political action in this country, I'd presume the answer to be NO.

Re:Biden signs TikTok 'ban' bill into law, starting clock fo... by hhjinks on Wednesday April 24, 2024 @05:01PM (#40149590)
Bad faith argument? It's not even an argument, it is a literal factual recounting of something that literally happened.
Re:Biden signs TikTok 'ban' bill into law, starting clock fo... by jntun on Wednesday April 24, 2024 @06:09PM (#40150412)
> Causing thousands of Americans to unknowingly act in the interest of the CCP

This is not a factual statement. It is a statement that contains something resembling a fact, however it is still just your subjective opinion.

Re:Biden signs TikTok 'ban' bill into law, starting clock fo... by hhjinks on Wednesday April 24, 2024 @06:14PM (#40150486)
I'll relent and admit that some of the people might knowingly have acted in the interest of the CCP, because you surely cannot be saying that it is not in the CCP's interest to avoid TikTok's divestment.
Re:Biden signs TikTok 'ban' bill into law, starting clock fo... by Spivak on Thursday April 25, 2024 @09:22AM (#40157235)
You are displaying a level of paranoia about the Chinese government that is clearly unhealthy. When US apps are facing legislation abroad that would ban them or regulate them in unfavorable ways they also notify their users. Take a step back and ask yourselves what the multinational company TikTok would do when facing a ban in one of its most profitable markets. Probably rally their users to oppose it.

The Chinese government and the US government exert their influence over companies in the same way -- regulation, backdoor conversations asking them to kill/mute stories, and NSL type requests. There's not some government propagandist sitting at a switchboard. In fact it's the "West" that goes above and beyond with an entire technical apparatus to real-time mass censor social media to "protect democracy." If you don't consider every US company to be a direct arm of the US government but do for China then it's because your feeling about China than your feelings about social media manipulation.

It is in China's interest to avoid divestment because TikTok is a successful company making China money. And now it's in their interest to avoid divestment to not get bullied by the US gov't. If TikTok had the power you and others in this thread ascribe to them they would be more successful at swaying public opinion.

Re:Biden signs TikTok 'ban' bill into law, starting clock fo... by hhjinks on Wednesday May 08, 2024 @04:08PM (#40302305)
>If you don't consider every US company to be a direct arm of the US government but do for China then it's because your feeling about China than your feelings about social media manipulation.

I do. I live in the EU, and our laws arguably don't allow sharing data with US companies for that exact reason (Schrems II judgement)

It doesn't matter why TikTok does anything. They have shown they can influence their users en masse, and they're legally obligated to do it if the Chinese authorities demand it.

Re:Biden signs TikTok 'ban' bill into law, starting clock fo... by afiori on Thursday April 25, 2024 @01:54AM (#40153927)
Then you agree that it does not prove your point, its just another fact like "Today is Thursday" :)