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Re:Google fires more workers after CEO says workplace isn’t ... by mightyham on Tuesday April 23, 2024 @12:56PM (#40134135)
Are you not aware of the Nakba or Israel using banned weapons on civilians for decades? I'm not saying hamas' actions are justified but there is no side in this conflict that can confidently claim moral superiority.
Re:Google fires more workers after CEO says workplace isn’t ... by bushbaba on Tuesday April 23, 2024 @12:59PM (#40134183)
Nakba, as in when the ARAB countries attacked Israel and told all Arab residents to leave. Israel won, and rest is history. All Arab residents which stayed and did not attack Israel were granted citizenship. A bit over twenty percent of Israeli Citzens are Arab.
Re:Google fires more workers after CEO says workplace isn’t ... by mightyham on Tuesday April 23, 2024 @01:29PM (#40134606)
This post and siblings all have maybe the most pro-zionist historical reading of the Nakba imaginable. Look into the Irgun organization for instance and you'll realize that the first Jewish settelers in palestine where incredibly violent against native peoples, and the war of 1948 was not entirely unprovoked.

I also have to clarify that I do believe Israel has the right to defend it's interests and retaliate against enemies. That does not make their actions moral.

Re:Google fires more workers after CEO says workplace isn’t ... by racional on Tuesday April 23, 2024 @01:32PM (#40134630)
Nakba, as in when the ARAB countries attacked Israel and told all Arab residents to leave.

A very sad and worn propaganda tale which many in Israel (supporters of its general policies since independence, in any case) still like to insulate themselves with.

But in any case an objectively false characterization of the events of 1947-1949. As its own archives, and essentially all of its academic historians by this point will readily attest.

Re:Google fires more workers after CEO says workplace isn’t ... by nailer on Tuesday April 23, 2024 @01:57PM (#40134949)
Arab states declaring war on Israel is widely documented part of history. You post does not include supporting arguments for any alternative explanation.

Meanwhile, the arabs that stayed in Israel during that war make up 20% of the population and interestingly enjoy more rights than any arab country.

Re:Google fires more workers after CEO says workplace isn’t ... by racional on Tuesday April 23, 2024 @02:07PM (#40135098)
Arab states declaring war on Israel is a part of history.

Right, but certain other things happened in that time period which are hugely important also.

Meanwhile, [the Palestinians] in Israel enjoy more rights than in [some] Arab countries.

The bigger point is that they have distinctly fewer rights, and are fundamentally less equal as citizens, than a certain other group of people in that country.

Your post does not include supporting arguments for any alternative explanation

There's no need. All of what I'm saying is common knowledge in Israel. It's mostly government propagandists, and Israel's uncritical supporters in other countries who keep rehashing these tired narratives.

Re:Google fires more workers after CEO says workplace isn’t ... by nailer on Tuesday April 23, 2024 @04:32PM (#40136909)
> > Meanwhile, the arabs that stayed in Israel during that war make up 20% of the population and interestingly enjoy more rights than any arab country.

> The bigger point is that they have distinctly fewer rights, and are fundamentally less equal as citizens, than a certain other group of people in that country.

No. The 2M Israeli arabs have the same rights as Druze and Jews do. This is a very basic verifiable fact you should be aware of before participating in this discussion.

Re:Google fires more workers after CEO says workplace isn’t ... by snird on Tuesday April 23, 2024 @01:05PM (#40134272)
^^^ this.

Starting a war and losing it should have consequences.

They tried to genocide the Jews in 1948 and lost.

If there are no consequences for what they did - they'll just keep doing it until they'll be successful. Which, coincidentally, is exactly what Hamas said about Oct 7 - that they'll repeat it again and again.

Re:Google fires more workers after CEO says workplace isn’t ... by compsciphd on Tuesday April 23, 2024 @04:18PM (#40136773)
If one views what is happening in Gaza as a genocide, then one has to admit that the Palestinians attempted (and succeeded) at genociding Jews multiple times previous to the creation of the state of Israel as well. Most notably the destruction of the Hebron Jewish community in 1929.

The common thread running through Palestinian nationalism from its inceptions is the desire for genocide (though we didn't have the term then) of Jews.

Re:Google fires more workers after CEO says workplace isn’t ... by SadCordDrone on Tuesday April 23, 2024 @12:59PM (#40134193)
As I said elsewhere, morality is a social construct. Survival is a biological instinct.
Re:Google fires more workers after CEO says workplace isn’t ... by nailer on Tuesday April 23, 2024 @01:16PM (#40134434)
Yes. Nakba is a conspiracy theory, saying the exodus of arabs from the new Jewish state was not caused by arab states declaring war on Israel in 1948.