I also have to clarify that I do believe Israel has the right to defend it's interests and retaliate against enemies. That does not make their actions moral.
A very sad and worn propaganda tale which many in Israel (supporters of its general policies since independence, in any case) still like to insulate themselves with.
But in any case an objectively false characterization of the events of 1947-1949. As its own archives, and essentially all of its academic historians by this point will readily attest.
Meanwhile, the arabs that stayed in Israel during that war make up 20% of the population and interestingly enjoy more rights than any arab country.
Right, but certain other things happened in that time period which are hugely important also.
Meanwhile, [the Palestinians] in Israel enjoy more rights than in [some] Arab countries.
The bigger point is that they have distinctly fewer rights, and are fundamentally less equal as citizens, than a certain other group of people in that country.
Your post does not include supporting arguments for any alternative explanation
There's no need. All of what I'm saying is common knowledge in Israel. It's mostly government propagandists, and Israel's uncritical supporters in other countries who keep rehashing these tired narratives.
> The bigger point is that they have distinctly fewer rights, and are fundamentally less equal as citizens, than a certain other group of people in that country.
No. The 2M Israeli arabs have the same rights as Druze and Jews do. This is a very basic verifiable fact you should be aware of before participating in this discussion.
Starting a war and losing it should have consequences.
They tried to genocide the Jews in 1948 and lost.
If there are no consequences for what they did - they'll just keep doing it until they'll be successful. Which, coincidentally, is exactly what Hamas said about Oct 7 - that they'll repeat it again and again.
The common thread running through Palestinian nationalism from its inceptions is the desire for genocide (though we didn't have the term then) of Jews.