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Re:North Korean animation outsourcing for Amazon, HBO Max se... by jsiepkes on Monday April 22, 2024 @03:43PM (#40118255)
So all that's required would then just be to outsource it to a bunch of companies who then outsource it and then claim you have: "no knowledge"?

You're the one outsourcing, so it's your responsibility. The entire chain.

Re:North Korean animation outsourcing for Amazon, HBO Max se... by 1123581321 on Monday April 22, 2024 @03:48PM (#40118557)
Yes, of course, but I was asking what level of due diligence is expected to verify that the chain does not violate sanctions.

In other words, when a problem like this is discovered, the US State Department will assign more blame to the company if their attempts to avoid violating sanctions fell below a threshold; what is that threshold for the arts industry.

Re:North Korean animation outsourcing for Amazon, HBO Max se... by KptMarchewa on Monday April 22, 2024 @04:04PM (#40119182)
> Yes, of course, but I was asking what level of due diligence is expected to verify that the chain does not violate sanctions.

The same as you were employing them directly.

Re:North Korean animation outsourcing for Amazon, HBO Max se... by StressedDev on Tuesday April 23, 2024 @12:04PM (#40133525)
You should ask a qualified lawyer. No one on this forum is going to know the right answer.
Re:North Korean animation outsourcing for Amazon, HBO Max se... by toasterlovin on Monday April 22, 2024 @03:48PM (#40118578)
Yeah, but "outsource it to a bunch of companies who then outsource it" is literally how the economy works. The most mundane product you can imagine has a network of upstream suppliers that is essentially incomprehensible in its complexity.
Re:North Korean animation outsourcing for Amazon, HBO Max se... by mhsred5 on Monday April 22, 2024 @04:08PM (#40119387)
At some point maybe stop outsourcing and just do the work.

Boeing used to make airplanes. Now they outsource the work of "make the airplanes" and all it cost them was their reputation.

Less outsourcing, more just doing the work please.

Re:North Korean animation outsourcing for Amazon, HBO Max se... by johngladtj on Monday April 22, 2024 @05:20PM (#40121075)
Ok, so you expect the airline to mine the ore to make the tools needed to mine the ore needed to make the aluminum used in the packaging of the snacks they give out on board?

Think about exactly where this ends.

Re:North Korean animation outsourcing for Amazon, HBO Max se... by jsiepkes on Monday April 22, 2024 @05:41PM (#40121404)
There is a difference between ordering specialist work (i.e. someone makes something to your exact specifications) and buying ore on a global market.

But sure, even in case of ore you have a responsibility to make sure it isn't being delved by slave labour.

Re:North Korean animation outsourcing for Amazon, HBO Max se... by toasterlovin on Monday April 22, 2024 @05:26PM (#40121230)
Even when you “stop outsourcing and just do the work”, you’re just subtracting a ~4 bit integer from a ~16 bit integer.
Re:North Korean animation outsourcing for Amazon, HBO Max se... by aembleton on Tuesday April 23, 2024 @04:50AM (#40129873)
Do you have to check just for the product that you're selling or for the inputs into that product?

Do you have to check that the tablets, keyboards and mice used by your employees and those of outsourcing companies were not made in North Korea? Do you have to check that the ink used on the keyboards weren't made in North Korea? Do you have to check that the coal for the power station for the keyboard factory didn't come from North Korea?