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Re:Apple deletes WhatsApp, Threads from China app store on o... by gruez on Friday April 19, 2024 @08:41AM (#40086089)
Isn't whatsapp already blocked in china? It being removed from the chinese app store doesn't make that much of a difference considering you can presumably create a US app store account with a VPN and download it that way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_websites_blocked_in_ma...

Re:Apple deletes WhatsApp, Threads from China app store on o... by Sayrus on Friday April 19, 2024 @08:44AM (#40086115)
Can you really just use a VPN, or is the store implemented like they plan on implementing Europe store? (A ban based on device location rather than IP location or account location)
Re:Apple deletes WhatsApp, Threads from China app store on o... by throwaway4good on Friday April 19, 2024 @08:48AM (#40086162)
In general all the big US social medias are available if you use a VPN or do roaming using a foreign SIM card in China - both as app or website.
Re:Apple deletes WhatsApp, Threads from China app store on o... by netsharc on Friday April 19, 2024 @04:53PM (#40091778)
> you can presumably create a US app store account with a VPN

I don't think it's that simple, at least with Google the phone seems to see the country code of the SIM card, or the mobile network it's connected to, to determine your "current country" for the Google Play Store. Maybe it will even ask you for a credit card number plus ZIP and country, that Google/Apple can confirm with your CC provider, if you say "Oh it's 90210 USA" and your CC billing address is 200000 Shanghai, your CC provider will say "verification failed".

I remember just downloading the APK of an app I needed which was not available for my Google Play country from apkmirror.com (thank Allah for sideloading).

It seems like the CCP asking Apple to ban these apps mean that they're getting more afraid about their leaky firewall, blocking them from being downloaded from the app store is another hurdle they've thought of for the Chinese citizenry.

Re:Apple deletes WhatsApp, Threads from China app store on o... by gruez on Friday April 19, 2024 @05:41PM (#40092238)
>I don't think it's that simple, at least with Google the phone seems to see the country code of the SIM card, or the mobile network it's connected to, to determine your "current country" for the Google Play Store

eject your sim card then, or download an esim from another country and turn on airplane mode

>Maybe it will even ask you for a credit card number plus ZIP and country, that Google/Apple can confirm with your CC provider, if you say "Oh it's 90210 USA" and your CC billing address is 200000 Shanghai, your CC provider will say "verification failed".

apple explicitly has a "none" payment option[1]

[1] https://www.tuneskit.com/images/resource/no-none-option-for-...

>It seems like the CCP asking Apple to ban these apps mean that they're getting more afraid about their leaky firewall, blocking them from being downloaded from the app store is another hurdle they've thought of for the Chinese citizenry.

Their firewall tech is top notch[2]. Getting past it is non-trivial (ie. you can't just buy nordvpn subscription and be on your way). Compared to that creating an alt apple account is easy.

[2] https://www.usenix.org/conference/usenixsecurity23/presentat...

Re:Apple deletes WhatsApp, Threads from China app store on o... by one-another-dev on Saturday April 20, 2024 @05:15AM (#40095957)
The complexity of spoofing location with app store in iPhone : https://twitter.com/hbkirb/status/1781503147904741430

This is for the EU compliance. But it is an example for the difficulty spoofing location