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Re:Meta Llama 3 by andy99 on Thursday April 18, 2024 @01:10PM (#40078435)
Once benchmarks exist for a while, they become meaningless - even if it's not specifically training on the test set, actions (what used to be called "graduate student descent") end up optimizing new models towards overfitting on benchmark tasks.
Re:Meta Llama 3 by acchow on Thursday April 18, 2024 @01:18PM (#40078512)
Also, the technological leader focuses less on the benchmarks
Re:Meta Llama 3 by manmal on Thursday April 18, 2024 @02:04PM (#40078968)
Interesting claim, is there data to back this up? My impression is that Intel and NVIDIA have always gamed the benchmarks.
Re:Meta Llama 3 by jgalt212 on Thursday April 18, 2024 @06:05PM (#40081254)
NVIDIA needs T models not B models to keep the share price up.
Re:Meta Llama 3 by karmasimida on Thursday April 18, 2024 @03:01PM (#40079601)
Even random seed could cause bad big shift in human eval performance if you know you know. It is perfectly illegal to choose one ckpt that looks best on those benchmarks and move along

HumanEval is meaningless regardless, those 164 problems have been overfit to the tea.

Hook this up to LLM arena we will get a better picture regarding how powerful they really are

Re:Meta Llama 3 by bilbo0s on Thursday April 18, 2024 @01:44PM (#40078757)
"graduate student descent"

Ahhh that takes me back!