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Re:Chemists Invent Drugs and Drugs Save Lives by bdrencher on Thursday April 18, 2024 @12:17AM (#40072896)
I think this is true for chemists with a lot of experience, but starting out in the field is brutal for most. Finishing your undergrad and realizing the most you can make is around $35k/year doing basic lab rat work is tough. The only other options are to go to grad school or leave the field entirely. The grad school route offers another 4 to 6 years of low pay and then possibly having to go through a post doc to ultimately land a job paying 80-100k/year. Tack on the student loan debt (from undergrad) and it paints a bleak picture.

Background: I studied chemistry as an undergrad and started a PhD after an internship at Merck. I couldn't see how I could support my family long term so I switched to tech.

Re:Chemists Invent Drugs and Drugs Save Lives by kragen on Thursday April 18, 2024 @01:08AM (#40073156)
the idea that chemistry is not part of tech is a big part of the problem
Re:Chemists Invent Drugs and Drugs Save Lives by Ekaros on Thursday April 18, 2024 @03:53AM (#40073952)
It is not. Chemistry is just a special sub-field of manufacturing. Nearly all manufacturing uses chemistry in some way. But in general manufacturing has nowhere near margins of "tech".
Re:Chemists Invent Drugs and Drugs Save Lives by kragen on Thursday April 18, 2024 @10:34AM (#40076725)
if you are starting from the assumption that drug development and other such research chemistry is 'just a special subfield of manufacturing' then obviously you are not going to come to any sensible conclusions, and i am sure your errors are widespread
Re:Chemists Invent Drugs and Drugs Save Lives by selimthegrim on Thursday April 18, 2024 @12:23PM (#40077840)
I suppose they think pharma is going to find their AI talent off the street and compete with MS, etc.
Re:Chemists Invent Drugs and Drugs Save Lives by bdrencher on Thursday April 18, 2024 @01:17AM (#40073206)
I agree! When I started my PhD I wanted to use software to help sift through the ocean of research papers and pair that with micro fluidics to create a way to quickly determine the validity of novel reactions. None of the professors were interested in working with me on something like that.
Re:Chemists Invent Drugs and Drugs Save Lives by kragen on Thursday April 18, 2024 @01:20AM (#40073218)
i didn't mean 'the idea that chemistry is not part of software'

'tech' is short for 'technology' in the oed's sense 1b, 'practical arts collectively', for which their first citation is from 01859, referring to, as it happens, chemistry; specifically, the formulation of varnishes for wood

https://archive.org/details/oed9barch/page/n548/mode/1up

possibly also the second half of their sense 1a, '... the scientific study of the practical or industrial arts,' for which i think the first citation is from bentham in 01802–12

obviously in the 19th century they weren't talking about software

your idea is good though

i hope you do it

Re:Chemists Invent Drugs and Drugs Save Lives by robertlagrant on Thursday April 18, 2024 @05:44AM (#40074491)
> the idea that chemistry is not part of tech is a big part of the problem

How so?