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Re:The forgotten war on beepers by lxgr on Wednesday April 17, 2024 @11:58PM (#40072813)
No, the original Iridium paging service really is (was?) one way.

You had to manually update your paging location by dialing some number or by using a web interface when moving significantly, or link an Iridium phone to your pager, which would then automatically update the paging area (MDA) every time you made a call.

What you mean is probably Iridium SBD, but that’s a different, bidirectional service (also used for pager-like devices these days).

Re:The forgotten war on beepers by karma_pharmer on Thursday April 18, 2024 @05:34AM (#40074433)
Yes, Iridium SBD requires transmitting before you can receive.

I did not know about Global Data Burst; I think that's what you're referring to. Holy cow it's expensive though, although I guess it has to be since you're using a lot more bandwidth*footprint. Like $6.00 per message per delivery area expensive. And they're kinda vague on how big a "delivery area" is.

https://apollosat.com/featured/iridium-gdb-pager/

Re:The forgotten war on beepers by lxgr on Thursday April 18, 2024 @08:15AM (#40075395)
No, I’m referring to the Iridium pager, which is just its own service and has been around longer than SBD, I believe. Messages were (are?) free to send on top of a monthly flat subscription rate per pager.

GDB seems to be a successor to that, though.

Re:The forgotten war on beepers by kotaKat on Thursday April 18, 2024 @09:43AM (#40076156)
GDB is just a branding for their own flavor of what they're selling which is Iridium Burst, which also appear to run on the 9602/9603 SBD modules, so... maybe Iridium Burst is just spicier Iridium SBD?

https://www.iridium.com/services/iridium-burst/

Re:The forgotten war on beepers by lxgr on Thursday April 18, 2024 @10:33AM (#40076711)
SBD is bidirectional unicast (and mandatorily so; as you say, SBD can't transmit to devices before they initiate a mailbox exchange, with the exception of a "message waiting" indicator.

Iridium Burst seems to be multicast-capable, and optionally bidirectional or unidirectional, so "spicier SBD" makes sense!

But their paging service was definitely unidirectional and unicast. Here's an old talk on decoding the signal, if you're curious: https://media.ccc.de/v/31c3_-_6236_-_en_-_saal_1_-_201412281...

Re:The forgotten war on beepers by kotaKat on Friday April 19, 2024 @08:36AM (#40086049)
Yep -- actually contributed an NAL Shout Nano so they had additional protocol decoding on top of SBD ;)