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Re:Personal VPN Services are Snake-Oil by jsheard on Sunday April 14, 2024 @03:59PM (#40033938)
You may not even need a VPN to get around censorship, ISPs implementing legally mandated site blocks often only bother to enforce them at the DNS level so you can trivially bypass them by using an encrypted DNS resolver.
Re:Personal VPN Services are Snake-Oil by pc86 on Sunday April 14, 2024 @04:03PM (#40033980)
Encrypted DNS resolvers aren't trivial[0] for the ~99% of people who don't even know what they are, though.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863

Re:Personal VPN Services are Snake-Oil by bhaney on Sunday April 14, 2024 @04:08PM (#40034014)
Doesn't Firefox default to eDNS these days? I don't think it can get much more trivial than that
Re:Personal VPN Services are Snake-Oil by LaLaLand122 on Sunday April 14, 2024 @04:24PM (#40034145)
In the UK, at least, it isn't the default (because of "the children"/"terrorism"). But it's still just a setting in Firefox/Chrome to change (and I guess in Edge too).
Re:Personal VPN Services are Snake-Oil by gruez on Sunday April 14, 2024 @04:39PM (#40034279)
Changing the "secure dns" option on their phone/computer is probably easier than installing a VPN app, tbh.
Re:Personal VPN Services are Snake-Oil by taneq on Sunday April 14, 2024 @05:44PM (#40034748)
Even just using a different DNS can be enough. A certain popular movie uploader is/was blocked by my ISP at the DNS level but worked fine once I changed to OpenDNS.
Re:Personal VPN Services are Snake-Oil by gravescale on Sunday April 14, 2024 @07:13PM (#40035356)
If only the Great Firewall were so easy. ExpressVPN seems to be "OK" once/if it connects but it's not very fast when websites load megabytes of crap via a bazillion tiny requests (which is a problem in any bandwidth-limited and/or high-latency environment: use your browser tools to simulate a slow connection, website devs!).
Re:Personal VPN Services are Snake-Oil by figassis on Monday April 15, 2024 @12:31AM (#40037091)
Use a browser with DOH. Even works against corporate censorship.