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Re:Identical twins both grew up with autism, but took differ... by verisimi on Sunday April 14, 2024 @01:57AM (#40029001)
I know I'll be downvoted, but I'll say it anyway.

What is never discussed, and isn't considered in this article, are certain types of other medical interventions - vaccination. Looking at certain (hard to find) videos by the deceased Dr Andrew Moulden, one is given some support for the theory that vaccines cause ischemia (small strokes). For the very young, the brain does not 're-route' and developmental milestones are simply missed, whereas in adults it's possible to relearn skills. Autism can be an impact, and one can also see physical impacts in the face, such as wonky smiles, wonky eyes, as different strokes cause various issues.

https://rumble.com/embed/ucfsd.v2n9tjk/

Re:Identical twins both grew up with autism, but took differ... by lazyasciiart on Sunday April 14, 2024 @03:25AM (#40029334)
Amazingly enough, this Andrew Moulden is a completely unrelated person to Andrew Wakefield, with his own much more sincere but correspondingly more crackpot theory for why vaccines cause autism. I think it can be well summarized as “germ theory is wrong; germs (viruses and bacteria) don’t cause diseases, foreign particles entering the body causes them”. This claim is clearly and fundamentally wrong, just like the claim about neuroplasticity that you quote. There is no value in his work.
Re:Identical twins both grew up with autism, but took differ... by suzzer99 on Sunday April 14, 2024 @03:28AM (#40029345)
Very solid takedown of Wakefield: https://peterattiamd.com/briandeer/
Re:Identical twins both grew up with autism, but took differ... by bitwize on Sunday April 14, 2024 @04:14AM (#40029560)
While we're exploring the quack-medicine space, have we ruled out heavy metal poisoning? I'm surprised someone with an MD from the University of Hackernews hasn't recommended the Cutler protocol as a cure.
Re:Identical twins both grew up with autism, but took differ... by suzzer99 on Sunday April 14, 2024 @03:15AM (#40029294)
Moulden was a snake-oil peddling quack with a degree in psychology who was never licensed to practice medicine. He peddled something called "BrainGuard" that purported to diagnose autism by looking at a picture or short video of a child or even a baby.

https://web.archive.org/web/20100109213523/http://brainguard...

> YOU are Now the Expert: Now You can diagnose vaccine induced Alzheimer’s dementia (or autism) several years before the Medical Doctor’s do – amongst your family and friends. You can also diagnose Autism (as it is is happening) in newborns, babies, teens – common signs. LOOK here to learn and practice your skills – starting

He also hooked up with something called therapies4kids to peddle a suit that could somehow cure or alleviate autism: https://web.archive.org/web/20090925065222/http://www.therap...

https://vaccineconspiracytheorist.blogspot.com/2011/01/quack...

https://hatingautism.blogspot.com/2009/10/dr-andrew-moulden-...

Re:Identical twins both grew up with autism, but took differ... by ben_w on Sunday April 14, 2024 @03:03AM (#40029249)
> What is never discussed, and isn't considered in this article, are certain types of other medical interventions - vaccination

It's very frequently discussed.

The downvotes you're expecting are because this meme can be traced to a fraudulent claim in 1998: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancet_MMR_autism_fraud

I declined the MMR vaccine at school because I was at school when that story came out, and at that point he and his claim were taken somewhat seriously.

(I did get the vaccine eventually).

> For the very young, the brain does not 're-route' and developmental milestones are simply missed, whereas in adults it's possible to relearn skills

That's the exact opposite of how it works. E.g. language acquisition in adulthood is much harder.

Re:Identical twins both grew up with autism, but took differ... by lazyasciiart on Sunday April 14, 2024 @03:30AM (#40029358)
That’s actually a totally different story, this commenter is talking about a Canadian psychiatrist in the 2000s. https://doctors.cpso.on.ca/DoctorDetails/Drew-Jeffrey-Andrew...
Re:Identical twins both grew up with autism, but took differ... by ben_w on Sunday April 14, 2024 @06:29AM (#40030128)
I'm suggesting the second is a memetic descendant of the first.

Unless there were other ancestors of both?