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Re:Is programming really appropriate for a seven-year-old? by gruseom on Tuesday December 16, 2008 @06:38PM (#400279)
I worked with a guy who is a very good programmer, who told me that from about age 11, he would come home from school and program his TRS-80 until 1 AM or so every day. "And I did that," he said, "for about seven years." I was shocked: did your parents know? "Oh yes." And they didn't mind? "No, why would they?" Well, didn't they think you needed to go outside or something? "No, I guess not."

He's a very sweet, quiet and introverted guy whom some people think of as a little, uh, inaccessible. But as someone else commented, there's no way of determining cause and effect here. I'm inclined to believe he's just the way he is, and programming had little to do with it.

A story from the same project: we were designing something at a whiteboard and I said, about a sort of messaging sequence: It's like a game of frozen tag... when this thingy gets a message, it has to wait until another thingy comes along and starts it again. He said, "Frozen what?" Frozen tag. You know frozen tag? "No, what's that?" Well, you know what tag is, right? The kids' game called tag? "No. What's tag?"

I had to explain what "tag" was.

Re:Is programming really appropriate for a seven-year-old? by patio11 on Tuesday December 16, 2008 @08:45PM (#400404)
I spent a large portion of my childhood sitting in a corner with a book called Make Your Own Videogames, which taught Basic. I had no computer -- family wasn't doing well back in those days -- but I had a notebook, a pencil, a whole lot of patience, and a cheerful disregard for the notion that the fun part of playing videogames was playing them.

Nobody believes me when I say I had three years programming experience before I first touched a computer...

(I can so relate to not knowing what tag is. In my case, it was Star Wars. There was an immigrant in my high school at Spanish class who asked me about it -- eff if I knew -- so we went to another kid and said "Hey, Li here has never heard of Star Wars and all I know is the name, can you fill him in?" "Wait, you've never seen Star Wars." "Something to do with a Death Star, I know." "What country do YOU come from?!")

Re:Is programming really appropriate for a seven-year-old? by flashgordon on Tuesday December 16, 2008 @07:14PM (#400317)
actually i am not quite so sure about "programming had very little to do with it"...

programming may have appealed to him given his personality, but that doesnt mean his personality is/was fixed and could not have changed... classic model is the TRD (Triadic Reciprocality Determinism) where the personality, behaviours and environment affect each other...

so in this case, he may have been mildly introverted, so the computer (the environment) offered temporary solace to his preference to introversion (personality) resulting in increasing usage (behaviors)...

now i am not saying there is anything wrong with introversion or doing what you enjoy, but you can always argue the benefits of such a choice on lifestyle and how it affects other parts of his life..

the worrying bit is the parents not thinking it was important to "go outside or something"...

Re:Is programming really appropriate for a seven-year-old? by psyklic on Tuesday December 16, 2008 @09:58PM (#400479)
I came home from school each day and programmed late into the night too. Unlike your friend, my parents DID think I "needed to go outside or something." haha
Re:Is programming really appropriate for a seven-year-old? by ConradHex on Tuesday December 16, 2008 @07:50PM (#400359)
>I had to explain what "tag" was.

That's really scary. I can imagine the conversation. "It's a game that children play." "Chil...dren?"

Re:Is programming really appropriate for a seven-year-old? by axod on Tuesday December 16, 2008 @08:26PM (#400383)
In the UK it's commonly referred to as "it". Was he from the US?
Re:Is programming really appropriate for a seven-year-old? by gruseom on Tuesday December 16, 2008 @08:28PM (#400387)
Canada. Which is like the US only less so :)
Re:Is programming really appropriate for a seven-year-old? by a-priori on Tuesday December 16, 2008 @10:18PM (#400499)
Where I grew up (in Canada), it known by both names. I wouldn't be surprised if nearby areas used the UK name of "it".
Re:Is programming really appropriate for a seven-year-old? by netcan on Wednesday December 17, 2008 @12:01AM (#400577)
I think in Australia kids call it 'chasey.'