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Re:The darker side of being a doctor by nradov on Saturday April 13, 2024 @03:47PM (#40025482)
For inpatient hospital care, research has shown that transitions in care are particularly risky for patients. When one doctor goes off shift and hands off a patient to another doctor, sometimes things fall through the cracks. In theory all of the data needed for a smooth transition should be documented in the patient chart, but in practice this doesn't always get done plus there is some tacit knowledge which clinicians build up by observing a particular patient which can't be put into words.

This risk of iatrogenic harm has been used to justify long hours, particularly for residents in teaching hospitals. I'm not saying that it's necessarily a good idea or that there are no better alternatives, just explaining some of the rationale.

Re:The darker side of being a doctor by tum92 on Saturday April 13, 2024 @04:08PM (#40025621)
I haven’t read that literature very closely, but will say that I have seen lots of handoffs, and they generally involve someone who has been working 12+ hours, very often 24+ hours, who needs to hand off 10s of patients to 3+ people, all of whom have things to do and can be hard to schedule around, before they can go home.

It is not at all surprising to me that these kind of hand offs result in things being missed, and equally obvious that decreasing the patients per provider and increasing hand off window hours would at least reduce some of those errors, if not outright improve them. Bonus points for putting the peak of handoffs into late morning hours, where much more of the decision making is completed.

Of course, the only way to do that is to either:

1) drag hours out longer, which I think lots of MDs would be fine with if they weren’t expected to turn around and do it again in 18-36 hours, requiring increased staffing

Or 2) increase staffing all around and just maintain more reasonable ratios

Re:The darker side of being a doctor by user_7832 on Saturday April 13, 2024 @04:04PM (#40025596)
Thanks, I commented a bit above already to a similar response. I would say that there's a balance between very short shifts and 24(or more) hour shifts. 12 hours for example is doable occasionally/with breaks in between shifts. Right now the pendulum is at one extreme.

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