End of the Line? Saudi Arabia to scale back plans for desert megacity

Re:End of the Line? Saudi Arabia to scale back plans for des... by fancyfredbot on Thursday April 11, 2024 @05:23AM (#40000169)

I'm guessing people's distastefor gulf states can be explained largely by their ranking in the global slavery index [1] (three gulf states in the top ten) the global freedom index [2] (Saudi Arabia in bottom ten) and the global corruption index (gulf states are not as good at corruption as slavery or repression but they still give it a good shot).

This seems more likely to me as an explanation than hating on people with different taste. Otherwise everyone would hate Japan for example.

[1] https://www.walkfree.org/global-slavery-index/#the-scale [2] https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/freedom-i... [3] https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2022

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Re:End of the Line? Saudi Arabia to scale back plans for des... by zaphirplane on Thursday April 11, 2024 @05:47AM (#40000337)

Most of earth’s 8 billion people are unaware of (1) and shouldnt paint a whole region, I see only 2-3 gulf countries in the top 10 of (2) which painting the whole region for is convoluted reasoning. Not vested enough to decode 3 to see how it relates to hating a region.

In summary, there maybe reasons for an informed person to have an issue with a specific government, there is no reasonable reason to hate on countries because the are adjacent to a government you dislike and lastly the individuals in a country are free to live in reasonable temperatures with their own taste in buildings

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Re:End of the Line? Saudi Arabia to scale back plans for des... by fancyfredbot on Thursday April 11, 2024 @06:44AM (#40000708)

I'd say that there are specific reasons to have an issue with each and every government in the region.

I'll call the gulf states Bahrain, Kuwait, Iraq, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and the United Arab Emirates. Which of these would you say has a good record on human rights, personal liberty, and equality?

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Re:End of the Line? Saudi Arabia to scale back plans for des... by zaphirplane on Thursday April 11, 2024 @07:24AM (#40000970)

Btw none of the points you are raising are the ones the OP has issue with. I responded to the issues they raised which boiled down to. They don’t like their taste in building or how much air con they use in 50 degree heat and a bunch of other hate spray against the ethnic group‘s wealth

An issue can be found in any government, how does that move the conversation forward ?

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Re:End of the Line? Saudi Arabia to scale back plans for des... by valval on Thursday April 11, 2024 @06:26AM (#40000594)

Ah, the good old western indices that prove that the non-western world is practically in the stone age.

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Re:End of the Line? Saudi Arabia to scale back plans for des... by temp_1337 on Thursday April 11, 2024 @08:31AM (#40001412)

Meanwhile, the US, Germany, and others are currently actively supporting a genocide. And it's not their first one.

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Re:End of the Line? Saudi Arabia to scale back plans for des... by fancyfredbot on Thursday April 11, 2024 @06:47PM (#40007617)

Whataboutism or whataboutery (as in "what about…?") is a pejorative for the strategy of responding to an accusation with a counter-accusation instead of a defense of the original accusation.

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