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Re:When teaching computer architecture, why are universities... by onethought on Thursday April 11, 2024 @02:26AM (#39998972)
> Universities aren’t corporate training grounds.

So the ridiculous fees that correlate to average wages of the profession you graduate into is just a weird coincidence?

Re:When teaching computer architecture, why are universities... by GarvielLoken on Thursday April 11, 2024 @02:46AM (#39999075)
There are no fees for University. See how fun it is when you assume how it is in your country is the same in all the other countries in the world?
Re:When teaching computer architecture, why are universities... by onethought on Thursday April 11, 2024 @04:01AM (#39999534)
So there are no universities that do what I’ve mentioned?

See how fun it is when you assume how it is in your country is the same in all the other countries in the world?

So in your country where the government pays the fees (I’m going to assume that is what you mean by “no fees” as I imagine academics are paid in this country), they do so because they care so much about the wellbeing of academia… or do you think the higher income graduates earn plays a role in increased taxation? Or do you live in a country without income tax?

Funny how people want to attack what you say, rather than refute your actual point: Universities (today) are corporate training grounds.

Re:When teaching computer architecture, why are universities... by wjnc on Thursday April 11, 2024 @02:32AM (#39999006)
Rent seeking causes that correlation (so there is actually a causal relationship): Some professions require certain university degrees. They pay high wages. Universities found out they can extract a rent on future earnings of potential entrants. So you could actually argue that by requiring the degree the firms not only create the rent extraction, but also de facto agree on the curriculum.
Re:When teaching computer architecture, why are universities... by onethought on Thursday April 11, 2024 @04:02AM (#39999548)
So universities (in some quite common scenarios) ARE corporate training grounds?
Re:When teaching computer architecture, why are universities... by wjnc on Thursday April 11, 2024 @05:58AM (#40000394)
That's pretty universal (worldwide) I guess? White collar corporate staff that is predominantly unversity educated. That still doesn't mean the curriculum is or should be corporation directed or focused. I know little about this, but India and South-Korea come to mind where there might be more direct links. UK as perhaps a counterpoint where you can find corporate role with an Oxbridge arts degree, or France.
Re:When teaching computer architecture, why are universities... by yuliyp on Thursday April 11, 2024 @02:51AM (#39999098)
At least for undergraduate studies, most universities have the same tuition regardless of major (outside of lab fees for courses which need lab materials). The tuition of a particular university is more related to its prestige level than the particular majors its students choose.
Re:When teaching computer architecture, why are universities... by onethought on Thursday April 11, 2024 @04:12AM (#39999634)
I see, and its prestige comes from what? Its contribution to academia? Or its contribution to industry?

Is there a prestigious university that corporates do not value degrees from highly?

Re:When teaching computer architecture, why are universities... by Cheer2171 on Thursday April 11, 2024 @08:20AM (#40001342)
Harvard has a relatively lower ranked CS program
Re:When teaching computer architecture, why are universities... by onethought on Thursday April 11, 2024 @10:20AM (#40002452)
And is prestigious for its business school… it’s basically the prototypical corporate training ground
Re:When teaching computer architecture, why are universities... by qarl on Thursday April 11, 2024 @08:55AM (#40001584)
Sounds like you want a trade school.