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Re:Ronda Rousey: 'I never wanted to talk about concussion. I... by runjake on Wednesday April 10, 2024 @02:41PM (#39994227)
Some points:

- The judges just score the match and sit outside the ring. They do not have the power to stop a fight. The referee is supposed to intervene.

- It's a common misconception that fight referees belong to the UFC. For fights, an athletic commission is responsible for refereeing. In most fights, this is the Nevada State Athletic Commission.

- The UFC has been quite vocal and registered many formal complaints with NSAC when a referee allowed too many punches before stopping a fight. There was that referee that I'll only mention by first name, so I don't get sued: Steve.

- It is my opinion that professional MMA fighters need some sort of independent organization that oversees their well-being and assures they get proper medical care. It should be funded from fight profits. Things like what's happened to Spencer Fisher should not be happening.

Re:Ronda Rousey: 'I never wanted to talk about concussion. I... by karaterobot on Wednesday April 10, 2024 @04:12PM (#39995227)
With the speed those guys hit, I imagine it'd be pretty tough for a referee to stop them before they've gotten an extra couple strikes in. It's an inherently dangerous activity, and sort of hard to mitigate that fact. I guess they could disqualify a fighter who hit their opponent in the head more than n times in a given match, or even make the head out of bounds altogether. Something tells me that's not an action the UFC would take willingly, or that UFC fans would accept happily.
Re:Ronda Rousey: 'I never wanted to talk about concussion. I... by gloryjulio on Wednesday April 10, 2024 @06:28PM (#39996363)
> head out of bounds altogether.

That's how you get kyokushin style tournament. The problem is people want the head to be part of it, even the fighter themself. It's just a tough sport considering human only live once

Re:Ronda Rousey: 'I never wanted to talk about concussion. I... by logro on Wednesday April 10, 2024 @03:27PM (#39994788)
> an athletic commission is responsible for refereeing

This sounds a bit like a distancing attempt.

Surely those referees follow the rules of UFC. So ultimately UFC is responsible no matter which entity enforces the rules.

Re:Ronda Rousey: 'I never wanted to talk about concussion. I... by bumby on Wednesday April 10, 2024 @03:38PM (#39994907)
>Surely those referees follow the rules of UFC.

I may be wrong, but I think it's the other way around. The commission sets the rules and hires the referees to enforce them. Dana White has be openly critical of certain referees and made it clear he'd fire them if he could. The UFC must follow the rules of the commission. I believe that's why some past fights could only occur in certain jurisdictions, and with modified rules. The unified rules of MMA are set by commission voters, not the UFC [1].

[1] https://www.ufc.com/unified-rules-mixed-martial-arts?languag...

Re:Ronda Rousey: 'I never wanted to talk about concussion. I... by lagniappe on Wednesday April 10, 2024 @04:04PM (#39995151)
You have it reversed.
Re:Ronda Rousey: 'I never wanted to talk about concussion. I... by dfxm12 on Wednesday April 10, 2024 @04:23PM (#39995335)
No, UFC follows the rules of the relevant athletic commission and they only use referees (and judges, and timekeepers, etc.) licensed in that jurisdiction. UFC famously moved a fight from NV to CA because NV wouldn't license Jon Jones to fight after a drug test: https://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/25603991/ufc-232-moved-l...

"Unified rules of MMA" were developed at the state athletic commission level (NJ maybe?), but not everywhere implements them: https://www.mmafighting.com/2019/4/16/18358920/abc-survey-at....

The ending of one fight in TX had betting implications because of their odd rules. https://www.mmafighting.com/2022/6/21/23177038/texas-commiss...

Re:Ronda Rousey: 'I never wanted to talk about concussion. I... by Gibson_v1 on Wednesday April 10, 2024 @06:32PM (#39996389)
"Unified Rules" is followed by MMA organizations in the USA. It's a set of rules most state athletic commissions have agreed on over the years. It is a horrendous rule set and judging system for MMA.
Re:Ronda Rousey: 'I never wanted to talk about concussion. I... by lagniappe on Wednesday April 10, 2024 @04:04PM (#39995149)
Re:Ronda Rousey: 'I never wanted to talk about concussion. I... by sfjailbird on Wednesday April 10, 2024 @04:38PM (#39995463)
I always wondered why he was not refereeing anymore. Instead, he now sits as a ringside official. I guess he failed up.
Re:Ronda Rousey: 'I never wanted to talk about concussion. I... by soared on Wednesday April 10, 2024 @04:10PM (#39995212)
Coaches can also stop the fight at any time, but of course they tend to never do that
Re:Ronda Rousey: 'I never wanted to talk about concussion. I... by rurp on Wednesday April 10, 2024 @07:52PM (#39996912)
> It is my opinion that professional MMA fighters need some sort of independent organization that oversees their well-being and assures they get proper medical care. It should be funded from fight profits. Things like what's happened to Spencer Fisher should not be happening.

The UFC has historically been wildly aggressively opposed to any sort of fighter organization or rights. I was a UFC fan for years but eventually faded away largely due to how repulsive I found the company's behavior, so there might be some recent developments I'm unaware of. I completely agree with you, but can't see it ever happening while the UFC has a de facto monopoly on the sport.

Re:Ronda Rousey: 'I never wanted to talk about concussion. I... by ajkjk on Wednesday April 10, 2024 @10:29PM (#39997829)
How could you get sued?
Re:Ronda Rousey: 'I never wanted to talk about concussion. I... by seanicus on Thursday April 11, 2024 @08:30AM (#40001406)
Spencer Fisher's situation is incredibly heartbreaking. Great article (good MMA journalism is as rare as hen's teeth) here: https://www.mmafighting.com/2021/1/12/21554602/the-cost-of-b...