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Re:Microsoft unveils sandbox boundaries for Windows 8/Metro ... by nemeth on Friday May 18, 2012 @08:41PM (#3994742)
Windows 8 Metro apps can be written in real C++. How could they sandbox a custom C++ app? There's no virtual machine to do it.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/hh46504...

Re:Microsoft unveils sandbox boundaries for Windows 8/Metro ... by barrkel on Friday May 18, 2012 @09:08PM (#3994799)
You don't need a virtual machine to sandbox C++; or rather, there's already a virtual machine in action, in the form of virtual memory and CPU privilege levels. The only way C++ (or any other native language) has to access to the outside its world is through calls to the kernel. Without direct file I/O APIs, options are even more limited (e.g. you can't easily write your own DLL loader).
Re:Microsoft unveils sandbox boundaries for Windows 8/Metro ... by msftguy on Friday May 18, 2012 @10:04PM (#3994890)
OS X/iOS use a 'sandbox' driver that utilizes TrustedBSD MAC infrastructure ( https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/Darwi... ). Basically, most system calls can be verified against one or more policy modules, and blocked if non-compliant. Not really possible with Windows and its bajillion of syscalls (1000 in win32k alone afair)
Re:Microsoft unveils sandbox boundaries for Windows 8/Metro ... by krasin on Saturday May 19, 2012 @03:08AM (#3995318)
>How could they sandbox a custom C++ app? There's no virtual machine to do it.

They could use NaCl [1] or develop a similar SFI technology just for Windows.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Native_Client

Re:Microsoft unveils sandbox boundaries for Windows 8/Metro ... by bringking on Saturday May 19, 2012 @10:04AM (#3995941)
It may be C++ but it is managed C++ that runs on the above the WinRT layer just like C#, and Javascript for metro. It will have the same restrictions as the other languages. It is actually interesting, in fact when you start a metro project at least in beta, you get the WinRT libraries and that's it. A ton of the traditional .NET classes have been moved into the WinRT library or removed all together.
Re:Microsoft unveils sandbox boundaries for Windows 8/Metro ... by mkup on Saturday May 19, 2012 @04:27AM (#3995455)
Virtual machine is not required for sandboxing C++ apps in 21st century.

[1] http://code.google.com/p/nativeclient/

[2] http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/research/security/capsicum/

Re:Microsoft unveils sandbox boundaries for Windows 8/Metro ... by drivebyacct2 on Friday May 18, 2012 @09:25PM (#3994827)
It's C++/CX. It's not just "real C++".
Re:Microsoft unveils sandbox boundaries for Windows 8/Metro ... by contextfree on Saturday May 19, 2012 @02:52AM (#3995287)
They can be written in ISO C++ (or if you're a masochist, in C) as well, just without some conveniences.