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Re:LiveView Is Best with Svelte by nmk on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @10:40AM (#39918132)
> I hope the next decade will be oriented around integrating stateful message-oriented (reactive?) programming into the mainstream full stack

Also known as MVC before Rails decided to redefine the term.

Re:LiveView Is Best with Svelte by klabb3 on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @11:25AM (#39918698)
Maybe? Most good ideas have been out there for decades. Getting the execution right is what’s hard.
Re:LiveView Is Best with Svelte by DonHopkins on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @10:58AM (#39918334)
Java redefined the term MVC a long time after Smalltalk originally defined the term in the 70's. Rails didn't redefine the term, it much later copied the (poorly) redefined term from Java and tweaked it a little. Smalltalk MVC and Java/Rails MVC are EXTREMELY different. Java and Ruby's MVC are quite similar (and loosely based on a superficial misunderstanding Smalltalk's MVC).
Re:LiveView Is Best with Svelte by andrewflnr on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @01:19PM (#39920234)
No, MVC is at best orthogonal to message-passing.