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Re:OpenAI deems its voice cloning tool too risky for general... by mrbombastic on Sunday March 31, 2024 @02:25PM (#39886683)
pretty convinced at this point these announcements are more about building buzz for openai then any real concern for humanity
Re:OpenAI deems its voice cloning tool too risky for general... by NavinF on Sunday March 31, 2024 @02:33PM (#39886752)
Yep they made the exact same claim about GPT-2. Back then language models talked like markov chains. I guess OpenAI's "fake it till you make it" strategy was so successful that they can't stop even after they've already made it
Re:OpenAI deems its voice cloning tool too risky for general... by ctoth on Sunday March 31, 2024 @02:41PM (#39886831)
Are you so deeply set in this mindset/idea that OpenAI is dishonest that you can't imagine that they might just be doing what they say they are doing?

Would you be willing to say literally anything I ask you to to anyone I specify, including telling your family that you have been kidnapped and need money?

Sometimes, when someone tells you they are concerned about something, that something is concerning. We should evaluate the actual concern. I am concerned you do not realize this.

Re:OpenAI deems its voice cloning tool too risky for general... by heroprotagonist on Sunday March 31, 2024 @03:19PM (#39887189)
Their action of removing the ban on military use of their technology has made me disbelieve their claims.

Couple that with deceptive naming practices ('Open' AI) and how much they've compromised their independence with so much Microsoft ownership.. why _would_ you take their claims at face value?

Re:OpenAI deems its voice cloning tool too risky for general... by simonklitj on Sunday March 31, 2024 @02:47PM (#39886901)
I don’t think NavinF shows any lack of concern for the issue as such. What’s being talked about here is whether OpenAI’s being forthright concerning their motives for keeping the tech closed.

I think we can all agree it is valid to be cautious with some of this tech, but the question is whether OpenAI is being cautious or simply using caution as PR. And given their track record, the latter seems, if not likely, then possible.

Re:OpenAI deems its voice cloning tool too risky for general... by NavinF on Sunday March 31, 2024 @07:19PM (#39889143)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf

Regarding the kidnapping scenario, my family isn't stupid enough to send money to anyone that sounds like me. Impersonating the gov't and sending letters would be a much better strategy since it's much harder to verify an organization's identity. Btw voice cloning is fairly mainstream and I've already used free voice cloning apps to humorous effect. Do you think people can't clone your voice today thanks to OpenAI holding back?

Re:OpenAI deems its voice cloning tool too risky for general... by 0x000xca0xfe on Sunday March 31, 2024 @03:11PM (#39887115)
To be fair the obvious application would be mass phone scamming while the general public is still unaware.

Maybe they just wait for somebody else to take the brunt of the reputation damage.

Re:OpenAI deems its voice cloning tool too risky for general... by gokuldas011011 on Sunday March 31, 2024 @02:51PM (#39886936)
OpenAI said the same for GPT2 as well.. They were soo concerned about the humanity that they switched to being a for profit company!
Re:OpenAI deems its voice cloning tool too risky for general... by atleastoptimal on Sunday March 31, 2024 @02:31PM (#39886734)
"My models are too strong for you, general public. You better find an AI lab that produces weaker models"
Re:OpenAI deems its voice cloning tool too risky for general... by automatic6131 on Sunday March 31, 2024 @02:44PM (#39886865)
"OpenAI, I'm going into the stock market, and I need your strongest models."
Re:OpenAI deems its voice cloning tool too risky for general... by jijijijij on Sunday March 31, 2024 @05:37PM (#39888268)
moderately convinced openai is a huge scam by now.

I think they've hit a plateau or something. Compare the recent Sam Altman interview by Lex Fridman with the one only a few months prior. The dude's in limbo. You can almost hear the legal team breathing down his neck not to make unsubstantiated, deceptive claims... They got high on their own supply and now have to cut their product with ground glass to make the same dose hit harder. There is some uncomfortable AI sobriety incoming.