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Re:Backdoor in upstream xz/liblzma leading to SSH server com... by doubled112 on Friday March 29, 2024 @08:56PM (#39870766)
Exactly. 8 character password in the 2010s as the only factor was fine. It was only my money we're talking about.

Now I have to wait for an SMS. Great...

Re:Backdoor in upstream xz/liblzma leading to SSH server com... by throwaway2990 on Saturday March 30, 2024 @12:19AM (#39871800)
SMS is fine on most countries. It’s just America is dumb and allows number transfers to anyone.
Re:Backdoor in upstream xz/liblzma leading to SSH server com... by hwertz on Saturday March 30, 2024 @02:47AM (#39872428)
Nope, I read The Register (UK based) and they've had scandals from celebrities having their confidential SMS messages leaked; SMS spoofing; I think they even have SIM cloning going on every now and then in UK and some European countries. (since The Register is a tech site, my recollection is some carriers took technical measures to prevent these issues while quite a few didn't.)

I don't think it's a thing that happens that often in UK etc.; but, it doesn't happen that frequently in the US either. It's just a thing that can potentially happen.

Re:Backdoor in upstream xz/liblzma leading to SSH server com... by throwaway2990 on Saturday March 30, 2024 @03:14AM (#39872568)
UK has plenty of other problems to solve first with identity thief.
Re:Backdoor in upstream xz/liblzma leading to SSH server com... by croemer on Saturday March 30, 2024 @07:52AM (#39873969)
...where identity is proved by utility bills instead of government issued id
Re:Backdoor in upstream xz/liblzma leading to SSH server com... by doubled112 on Saturday March 30, 2024 @08:12AM (#39874097)
How else do you prove you live some place?

“I pay the bills there” is barely better than nothing, though. We do this in Canada too. It is what I used for a driver’s license one renewal.

Re:Backdoor in upstream xz/liblzma leading to SSH server com... by KiwiJohnno on Saturday March 30, 2024 @01:17AM (#39872039)
Its also been a problem in Australia, Optus (2nd biggest teleco) used to allow number porting or activating sim against an existing account with a bare minimum of detail - Like a name, address and date of birth. If you had those details of a target you could clone their SIM and crack any SMS based MFA.
Re:Backdoor in upstream xz/liblzma leading to SSH server com... by chris_wot on Saturday March 30, 2024 @08:58AM (#39874431)
Is that alllowed now still?
Re:Backdoor in upstream xz/liblzma leading to SSH server com... by throwaway2990 on Saturday March 30, 2024 @06:07PM (#39879137)
Apparently changed in 2022 to protect consumers.
Re:Backdoor in upstream xz/liblzma leading to SSH server com... by StillBored on Saturday March 30, 2024 @01:29AM (#39872096)
SMS is not E2E encrypted, so for all intents is just a plain text message that can/has been snooped. Might as well just send a plaintext emails as well.
Re:Backdoor in upstream xz/liblzma leading to SSH server com... by eru on Saturday March 30, 2024 @01:20AM (#39872064)
Number transfers in other countries is also mostly just a question of a bit of social engineering.
Re:Backdoor in upstream xz/liblzma leading to SSH server com... by throwaway2990 on Saturday March 30, 2024 @03:09AM (#39872539)
No. Most require some form of identification or matching identification between mobile providers.
Re:Backdoor in upstream xz/liblzma leading to SSH server com... by macrolime on Saturday March 30, 2024 @11:39AM (#39875875)
I recently had an issue with a sim card and went to phone store that gave me a new one and disabled the old. They're supposed to ask for ID, but often doesn't bother. This is true for pretty much every country. Phone 2FA is simply completely insecure.
Re:Backdoor in upstream xz/liblzma leading to SSH server com... by eru on Saturday March 30, 2024 @09:16PM (#39880423)
If the ID matching is done by humans, you can use social engineering on it.

See the sibling comment.

Re:Backdoor in upstream xz/liblzma leading to SSH server com... by vladvasiliu on Saturday March 30, 2024 @06:14AM (#39873449)
I don’t know about other parts, but here in France SMS is a shitshow. I regularly fail to receive them even though I know I have good reception.

This happened the other day while I was on a conference call with perfect audio and video using my phone’s mobile data.

A few weeks back, had some shop which sends out an SMS to inform you the job’s done tell me this is usually hit and miss when I complained about not hearing from them.

Re:Backdoor in upstream xz/liblzma leading to SSH server com... by high_priest on Saturday March 30, 2024 @09:29AM (#39874660)
Many single radio phones can either receive sms/calls, or transmit data. My relative owns such a device and cannot use internet during calls or receive/make calls during streaming like YT video playback.
Re:Backdoor in upstream xz/liblzma leading to SSH server com... by vladvasiliu on Saturday March 30, 2024 @10:11AM (#39875077)
In my case this is an iPhone 14 pro. I'm pretty sure I can receive calls while using data, since I often look things up on the internet while talking to my parents.

And, by the way, the SMS in question never arrived. I don't know if there's some kind of timeout happening, and the network gives up after a while. Some 15 years ago I remember getting texts after an hour or two if I only had spotty reception. This may of course have changed in the meantime, plus this is a different provider.

Re:Backdoor in upstream xz/liblzma leading to SSH server com... by dewey on Saturday March 30, 2024 @08:07AM (#39874077)
SS7 is a global issue, and so is social engineering to get a number transferred or SIM card transferred.

https://hitcon.org/2015/CMT/download/day1-d-r0.pdf