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Re:Sam Bankman-Fried sentenced to 25 years in prison by matthewdgreen on Thursday March 28, 2024 @03:21PM (#39856207)
>the money ended up all being there, but it was so scattered that it's taken all this time to find it.

This is explicitly not the case. The new management has not found hundreds of millions (billions) in cryptocurrency assets. Some other assets have surged in value and that may allow FTX to make some customers "whole" (meaning, they will not lose much money in an environment where otherwise maybe they would have strongly profited), but this isn't the same thing.

Re:Sam Bankman-Fried sentenced to 25 years in prison by caturopath on Thursday March 28, 2024 @03:49PM (#39856502)
The new management found many billions of assets of various asset classes https://www.reuters.com/technology/bankrupt-crypto-exchange-... When FTX thought it was broke, there were really billions of dollars of stuff they were too much of a mess to come up with.

That isn't to say that 'all the money was there' or that the conduct wasn't deeply criminal and unethical, but a huge part of the shortfall was really just terrible books.

Re:Sam Bankman-Fried sentenced to 25 years in prison by meowface on Thursday March 28, 2024 @04:09PM (#39856711)
If true, kind of funny. If they weren't so incompetent they may've been able to skate past it without the public realizing what was going on.
Re:Sam Bankman-Fried sentenced to 25 years in prison by matthewdgreen on Thursday March 28, 2024 @05:36PM (#39857605)
When you’re talking about 8 billion dollars, it’s easy to lose sight of the fact that “a huge part of the shortfall was found” means that billions of dollars weren’t.
Re:Sam Bankman-Fried sentenced to 25 years in prison by caturopath on Friday March 29, 2024 @12:05PM (#39865681)
The claim seemed to me to be that very little money was found compared to the 8 billion dollars. That doesn't seem true.
Re:Sam Bankman-Fried sentenced to 25 years in prison by matthewdgreen on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @02:47PM (#39921385)
One concrete claim I found is that many BTC holders might get paid back in USD at the then-price of the coin, which is ~$16K. Bitcoin is currently at ~$65K, which indicates that they could have lost up to 75% of the underlying coins. Just to be clear: this is not the same as being made whole.
Re:Sam Bankman-Fried sentenced to 25 years in prison by lowkeyoptimist on Thursday March 28, 2024 @05:44PM (#39857717)
That billions of stuff were other coins that dropped in value which they were using to run their scheme and investments that are still illiquid, like their 500 million dollar investment in Anthropic. I can only imagine what that Anthropic investment is worth today.

https://d1e00ek4ebabms.cloudfront.net/production/7ab64a3b-6c...

This is even from the article you reference: "FTX has benefited from a recent rise in crypto prices, Dietderich said. Its total recovery would be valued at $6.2 billion based on crypto prices from November 2022, when it filed for bankruptcy after traders pulled $6 billion from the platform in three days and rival exchange Binance abandoned a rescue deal."

Re:Sam Bankman-Fried sentenced to 25 years in prison by DANmode on Thursday March 28, 2024 @03:45PM (#39856449)
You have a source indicating the $473 to $600+ million that was supposedly moved to cold storage from client wallets was all recovered by the law, and/or the new stewards of FTX?