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Re:Digital wallets and the "only Apple Pay does this" mythology by kibwen on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @07:00PM (#39845645)
You don't need a digital wallet app to do this, either. Plenty of credit card companies let you generate burner numbers to avoid giving out your real number.

EDIT: Would someone like to explain why this is downvoted? This statement is objectively true; for example, Capital One calls these "virtual card numbers".

Re:Digital wallets and the "only Apple Pay does this" mythology by hgfghj on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @08:06PM (#39846198)
Because you can’t use those burner numbers to make brick and mortar purchases.

Your assertion was objectively false.

Re:Digital wallets and the "only Apple Pay does this" mythology by kibwen on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @08:08PM (#39846218)
Cashiers in brick and mortar stores can enter card details manually. You've never had a card reader break and then had the cashier have to type it in by hand?
Re:Digital wallets and the "only Apple Pay does this" mythology by hgfghj on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @08:19PM (#39846311)
I have never convinced a cashier to use digits provided by me or off my phone screen. That is fundamentally different from getting them to manually enter a card.

But I understand you’re making irrelevant bad faith comments, because you’re too weak to admit that you were wrong about something unimportant.

kibwen, learn to take an L.

Re:Digital wallets and the "only Apple Pay does this" mythology by cptskippy on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @08:31PM (#39846388)
Sketchiness aside, the fee a merchant pays is different based on the capture method to incentivize using more secure methods. The bank, payment processor, and the merchant know how a PAN was processed.
Re:Digital wallets and the "only Apple Pay does this" mythology by jonathantf2 on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @08:45PM (#39846475)
Never once had that in my life.
Re:Digital wallets and the "only Apple Pay does this" mythology by MBCook on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @09:12PM (#39846676)
It’s usually only done when the card reader isn’t working with the particular card. For example back in magstripe when it was the magnetized or if there’s a problem with the chip these days and magstripe fallback fails or the device doesn’t support stripe reading.
Re:Digital wallets and the "only Apple Pay does this" mythology by rowls66 on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @09:07PM (#39846648)
They can but they generally won’t. Use of the chip on the card shifts fraud liability from merchant to issuer. Burner card numbers are for card not present transactions.
Re:Digital wallets and the "only Apple Pay does this" mythology by adrr on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @07:07PM (#39845705)
How do I key in a credit card number when I am at a target store checking out?
Re:Digital wallets and the "only Apple Pay does this" mythology by kibwen on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @08:09PM (#39846233)
To continue to use the example of Capital One, you can use their virtual cards with digital wallets; the point is to demonstrate that this is neither a new capability nor something that is exclusive to digital wallet apps.