The window for great-grandmothers is closing

Re:The window for great-grandmothers is closing by zachmu on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @06:19PM (#39845293)

IMHO opinion you have to take happiness surveys like this with a grain of salt. For one thing, there is no such thing as a happiness ruler, this is all based on survey responses and subjective ideas of what it means to be happy. The effect sizes are small and inconsistent. The same surveys frequently show industrial countries significantly less happy than developing countries, and yet few people would choose to live like a Guatemalan instead of a Canadian.

And despite what they may say to surveys like this, it's pretty difficult to find parents who are willing to admit they wish they hadn't had kids. Most consider their family the most important aspect of their lives.

More importantly, "happiness" is a poor metric to optimize one's life around, and hardly anyone does. Most people search for purpose and meaning, which children supply in spades.

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Re:The window for great-grandmothers is closing by silverquiet on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @06:43PM (#39845490)

I used to take these with a grain of salt indeed, but this is a meta study that finds effects that seem consistent.

I think that happiness probably includes meaning for a lot of people and furthermore it’s a hard sell telling them that they shouldn’t want to be happy.

I’d also turn around the statement about parents who wish they hadn’t had kids (though I did at one point accidentally date a woman who was married with children who clearly didn’t want any of that) to say that I also suspect that those who avoided having children on purpose also rarely regret that decision; some people are just different ultimately I suppose.

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Re:The window for great-grandmothers is closing by Spivak on Thursday March 28, 2024 @09:19AM (#39850996)

I guess the litmus test is would you make the same argument if the results of the study had been the opposite? If they had said industrial life and being a parent increased happiness would you be just as skeptical?

I doubt you would say woah woah there people are sleeping on Guatemala, does being childfree get the same treatment?

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