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Re:Amazon spends another $2.7B on Anthropic by benreesman on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @02:37PM (#39842959)
Your assertion is that a fundamentally quadratic complexity class is going from low hundred millions to maybe a billion in a new league of capability and that it’s coincidental that we have from Altman, the mainstream press, and OG leadership at YC that he’s going for a ten figure raise led by Riyadh?
Re:Amazon spends another $2.7B on Anthropic by HarHarVeryFunny on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @03:04PM (#39843276)
Not sure where you are getting quadratic from... Increasing context size had quadratic cost using original attention, but it seems everyone has switched to newer more efficient attention schemes. Claude-3 is being experimented with 10x context size of GPT-4 (1M vs 128K), but surely didn't cost 10^2 x $100M to train!

Note that scaling up model size doesn't necessarily refer to context size anyway - may also be things like embedding dimensions size, number of transformer layers, number of experts (MoE), etc.

In general scaling up 10x in size and/or cost between generations is about as much as makes sense, and about as much as can be achieved in a year. Anthropic have explicitly talked about $1B models coming soon, so this isn't just speculation.

Re:Amazon spends another $2.7B on Anthropic by benreesman on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @03:48PM (#39843729)
I’m on record as saying that we need to squeeze the water out of these bloated models.

It’s possible to scale better than N^2 for some value of “better”. OpenAI has yet to demonstrate that they have the elusive combination of technical sophistication and institutional health to do so. Mistral can run a better model as judged by outcomes on my Mac Studio than GPT-4 is on an Azure disagg rack. Altman seems to understand this.

I’m on record as saying he’s amoral, non-technical, and a clear and present danger to Enlightenment civilization, not that he’s stupid.

I think his math on what it’s going to cost an OpenAI that Karpathy wants nothing to do with to reach the next level is refreshingly candid.