Re:Hacking the genome of fungi for smart foods of the future
by adrian_b on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @10:38AM
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1000 kcal of lentils do not provide all the EAAs.
A typical value would be to eat at least 1700 kcal of lentils to provide enough methionine (you need 543 g/day of lentils to provide enough methionine for an 170 lb human).
Even eating only 1000 kcal of lentils would not be considered pleasurable by most people, for whom such a quantity would be too much.
When you choose a diet, ensuring that you will enjoy that food is as important as not exceeding the kcal threshold and as exceeding the nutrient threshold.
Legumes are cheaper than meat (but not by much, chicken meat is only about 50% more expensive than legumes, per protein content), but you cannot eat only legumes and they cannot be the only important source of protein, you need at least a second source.
I care for protein because this is the main difficulty when you do not want to eat meat. Anything else can be easily obtained from vegetable sources or from supplements. I am annoyed when I see people who write vegan propaganda, while at the same time attempting to minimize the protein problem. I have been trying for years to become vegan, but without success, because I could not solve the protein problem, and almost all the vegan advice that I have seen has been completely useless, because it looked like it was written by people who did not care whether they pay $5 or $50 for a meal, or whether they waste 5 minutes for cooking or they waste an hour. Eventually I have solved the problem, but only after personal experiments and I would have liked very much to have wasted much less time with this.
I have no problem with gluten, so for myself gluten is a major source of protein. Nevertheless, if I had gluten intolerance, where I live, in Europe, the only alternative for achieving a 2000 kcal daily energy intake without meat and dairy (and without eating a diet that no free human would accept, like eating only lentils, water and a capsule of vitamins and minerals) would be chicken eggs (as a supplement for legumes).
At least here, protein extracts are typically 5 times more expensive than chicken meat (per protein content), so using them as a staple food would seem stupid.
You have not provided any alternative to what I have said and I bet that ChatGPT would give an answer that is either wrong or irrelevant.
A typical value would be to eat at least 1700 kcal of lentils to provide enough methionine (you need 543 g/day of lentils to provide enough methionine for an 170 lb human).
Even eating only 1000 kcal of lentils would not be considered pleasurable by most people, for whom such a quantity would be too much.
When you choose a diet, ensuring that you will enjoy that food is as important as not exceeding the kcal threshold and as exceeding the nutrient threshold.
Legumes are cheaper than meat (but not by much, chicken meat is only about 50% more expensive than legumes, per protein content), but you cannot eat only legumes and they cannot be the only important source of protein, you need at least a second source.
I care for protein because this is the main difficulty when you do not want to eat meat. Anything else can be easily obtained from vegetable sources or from supplements. I am annoyed when I see people who write vegan propaganda, while at the same time attempting to minimize the protein problem. I have been trying for years to become vegan, but without success, because I could not solve the protein problem, and almost all the vegan advice that I have seen has been completely useless, because it looked like it was written by people who did not care whether they pay $5 or $50 for a meal, or whether they waste 5 minutes for cooking or they waste an hour. Eventually I have solved the problem, but only after personal experiments and I would have liked very much to have wasted much less time with this.
I have no problem with gluten, so for myself gluten is a major source of protein. Nevertheless, if I had gluten intolerance, where I live, in Europe, the only alternative for achieving a 2000 kcal daily energy intake without meat and dairy (and without eating a diet that no free human would accept, like eating only lentils, water and a capsule of vitamins and minerals) would be chicken eggs (as a supplement for legumes).
At least here, protein extracts are typically 5 times more expensive than chicken meat (per protein content), so using them as a staple food would seem stupid.
You have not provided any alternative to what I have said and I bet that ChatGPT would give an answer that is either wrong or irrelevant.